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January Medium/Long Range: Chasing more snow to close out the month


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11 minutes ago, Ji said:


So we went from Feb 9 to Feb 15 in one run lol. After Feb 20 we all start to lose interest as average high climbs to 50

You are being performative as usual. Our coldest avg high is around 40, depending on exact location. Using that metric, it always takes anomalous cold for it to snow. We have had plenty of significant snowstorms mid Feb into mid March. 

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The fact is the atmosphere is in a Niña background state despite the weak Niña sea surface temps. Under sea temp anomalies are at -5C. Add to that currently a strong easterly wind burst (typical Nina) in a typically crummy Niña  month of February, and I am not surprised to see the SER holding on. Modeling just jumped the gun wiping it out. We'll just have to wait to see if and when a better pattern returns. It should, but nothing is guaranteed. 

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Just now, mitchnick said:

Surprisingly, surface temps past day 10 aren't as warm as that map would suggest fwiw.

I know I am just having a little fun with the Chuck -PNA thing. Some folks take this shit too seriously. Chill a little. Weather will happen. Fun to track and try to figure it out, regardless of the outcome.

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So with the pattern change discussion, how likely is it that it gets can kicked?

I know the pattern is different but I remember long range discussion in the CWG during 16-17 and the people there stressed that we shouldn’t discount February, as it was the snowiest month historically and President’s Day has been known for its large storms. That strung us along for the front half of February 2017 but then reality came barging in on the 14th: https://archive.ph/YJ37f

Sure enough instead of a back loaded storm season President’s Day had highs around 70.

How do we know this doesn’t happen again this year too?

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3 minutes ago, JenkinsJinkies said:

So with the pattern change discussion, how likely is it that it gets can kicked?

I know the pattern is different but I remember long range discussion in the CWG during 16-17 and the people there stressed that we shouldn’t discount February, as it was the snowiest month historically and President’s Day has been known for its large storms. That strung us along for the front half of February 2017 but then reality came barging in on the 14th: https://archive.ph/YJ37f

Sure enough instead of a back loaded storm season President’s Day had highs around 70.

How do we know this doesn’t happen again this year too?

We don’t. The end. 

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56 minutes ago, JenkinsJinkies said:

So with the pattern change discussion, how likely is it that it gets can kicked?

I know the pattern is different but I remember long range discussion in the CWG during 16-17 and the people there stressed that we shouldn’t discount February, as it was the snowiest month historically and President’s Day has been known for its large storms. That strung us along for the front half of February 2017 but then reality came barging in on the 14th: https://archive.ph/YJ37f

Sure enough instead of a back loaded storm season President’s Day had highs around 70.

How do we know this doesn’t happen again this year too?

We need JB to weigh in!

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3 minutes ago, JenkinsJinkies said:

February 3rd is the last entry on this. That kind of warmth takes a bit to undo.IMG_6237.thumb.jpeg.be6f0c8c3a88209668d88b6e3cfe4d7a.jpeg

Seeing as we've been cold all this time I'm not sure it's the same as when we've had like 2-3 weeks of pac firehouse or something like that. May not take as long to turn cold again once it comes.

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I think cape is talking about the big differences even between the op

Yeah I know. I need to reup weatherbell so I’ve been out of loop. End of that 18z euro run that cape just posted looks a bit interesting. Can someone post H5 vorticity? It almost looks like that confluence might be able to dive farther south in time.


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