February 2025

[SACRUS]

3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Tony whats the actual average/mean temperature for the month for these locations-- how could NYC be at -0.8 but JFK is at +3.0, is it because of higher mins from the westerly winds?

 

 

JFK: 36.6
LGA: 34.8
EWR: 34.6
NYC: 34.1

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

My snowfall right now is 29.7 inches about 20 below the seasonal norm but we still have a good 6 weeks of winter here, maybe not in places south of the city, to get to seasonal norm. I'm now at 41 days of a solid, although never deep, snow cover for the season as opposed to last year which was 26 days for the whole winter, and the year before which was a ridiculous 16 days.

In those two years the total snowfall was 28.8 and 30.6 so pretty much what I've received so far this year. So with basically the same amount of snow I've had 20-25 days more of snow cover and what I have now isn't going anywhere for at least another week if not longer. It's 4 inches of snow, ice and sleet compacted into a water equivalent that I would guess is close to 1.5 to 2.0 inches. That doesn't disappear quickly like a normal overnight 4 inch snowfall would.

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, bluewave said:

Snowfall across the coastal zones has pretty much reverted to the 2020s mean this season. Our new 6 year average for the 2020s has been generally between 10-20 inches. There have been a few exceptions like 20-21 areawide and locally in eastern sections during 22. This is the new average snowfall range with the very fast Northern Stream of the Pacific Jet. It leads to cutter, hugger, and suppressed Southern Stream storm tracks beginning in 18-19. Since we have need benchmark tracks to go over 20” in the local means since the 1990s. It will be interesting to see if we can change up this storm track pattern through 28-29 in order to avoid a permanent shift under 20” if this continues into the 2030s and beyond. The current 7 station average for the 2020s is 16.3”.
 

Monthly Total Snowfall for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
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Mean	T	0.0	3.3	4.6	8.4	0.3	T	16.5
2024-2025	0.0	0.0	3.5	3.7	6.2	M	M	13.4
2023-2024	0.0	T	T	3.1	9.1	T	0.0	12.2
2022-2023	0.0	T	0.1	T	2.0	0.6	0.0	2.7
2021-2022	0.0	0.1	0.1	14.6	2.3	0.8	0.0	17.9
2020-2021	T	0.0	11.9	3.2	30.6	T	0.0	45.7
2019-2020	0.0	T	4.2	2.7	T	T	T	6.9

 

Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
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Mean	0.0	T	2.7	4.2	7.0	0.1	T	13.9
2024-2025	0.0	0.0	2.8	3.0	6.7	M	M	12.5
2023-2024	0.0	T	T	2.3	5.2	T	0.0	7.5
2022-2023	0.0	0.0	T	T	2.2	0.1	0.0	2.3
2021-2022	0.0	T	0.2	15.3	2.0	0.4	0.0	17.9
2020-2021	0.0	0.0	10.5	2.1	26.0	T	0.0	38.6
2019-2020	0.0	0.0	2.5	2.3	T	T	T	4.8

 

Monthly Total Snowfall for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY
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Mean	0.0	T	2.7	5.6	7.1	0.3	T	15.7
2024-2025	0.0	0.0	3.2	4.5	7.3	M	M	15.0
2023-2024	0.0	T	T	3.9	6.6	T	T	10.5
2022-2023	0.0	0.0	0.4	T	2.9	0.1	0.0	3.4
2021-2022	0.0	T	0.6	20.4	2.7	1.6	0.0	25.3
2020-2021	0.0	0.0	10.2	1.9	23.2	T	T	35.3
2019-2020	0.0	T	2.0	2.6	T	T	T	4.6

 

Monthly Total Snowfall for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY
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Mean	0.0	T	2.1	4.3	8.0	0.2	T	14.5
2024-2025	0.0	0.0	3.0	2.5	6.4	M	M	11.9
2023-2024	0.0	T	T	2.4	10.4	T	0.0	12.8
2022-2023	0.0	T	T	T	1.7	0.4	0.0	2.1
2021-2022	0.0	T	0.2	17.8	3.2	0.5	0.0	21.7
2020-2021	0.0	0.0	7.2	0.9	26.4	T	T	34.5
2019-2020	0.0	T	1.9	1.9	T	T	T	3.8

 

Monthly Total Snowfall for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY
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Mean	T	0.0	2.4	6.9	7.6	0.6	T	17.5
2024-2025	0.0	0.0	2.1	2.7	6.7	M	M	11.5
2023-2024	0.0	T	T	3.1	7.8	0.0	0.0	10.9
2022-2023	0.0	0.0	0.4	T	3.0	1.6	0.0	5.0
2021-2022	0.0	T	0.3	31.8	3.3	1.6	0.0	37.0
2020-2021	T	0.0	7.5	1.1	24.9	T	T	33.5
2019-2020	0.0	0.1	4.2	2.5	0.0	T	T	6.8

 

Monthly Total Snowfall for IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT, CT
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Mean	T	T	3.0	6.4	10.4	0.4	T	20.0
2024-2025	0.0	0.0	1.3	4.1	12.6	M	M	18.0
2023-2024	0.0	T	T	5.5	10.1	0.0	T	15.6
2022-2023	0.0	T	0.8	T	4.1	T	0.0	4.9
2021-2022	0.0	T	0.2	20.8	4.7	2.0	0.0	27.7
2020-2021	T	T	10.0	3.1	30.7	0.0	0.0	43.8
2019-2020	0.0	T	5.5	4.6	T	T	T	10.1

 

Monthly Total Snowfall for New Brunswick Area, NJ (ThreadEx)
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Mean	0.0	T	2.1	4.2	9.2	0.4	T	15.9
2024-2025	0.0	0.0	4.0	5.0	4.1	M	M	13.1
2023-2024	0.0	0.0	0.0	6.3	16.0	T	0.0	22.3
2022-2023	0.0	0.0	T	T	2.0	1.3	0.0	3.3
2021-2022	0.0	T	T	12.0	2.6	0.9	0.0	15.5
2020-2021	0.0	0.0	6.5	0.2	30.6	0.0	0.0	37.3
2019-2020	0.0	0.0	2.0	1.8	T	0.0	T	3.8

 

Chris when was the last time all the local airports (LGA, JFK, EWR, ISP) plus the park (NYC) had 15.0 or less inches of snow for 3 years in a row or more? Has it ever happened before?

[SACRUS]

14 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Chris when was the last time all the local airports (LGA, JFK, EWR, ISP) plus the park (NYC) had 15.0 or less inches of snow for 3 years in a row or more? Has it ever happened before?

In NYC

A few times came close most notably this stretch

1927-1928: 14.5 inches
1928-1929: 13.8 inches
1929-1930: 13.6 inches
1930- 1931: 11.6 inches
1931-1932: 5.3 inches

then this one

1949-1950: 13.8 inches
1950-1951: 11.6 inches
1951-1952: 19.7 inches
1952- 1953: 15.1 inches
1953- 1954: 15.8 inches
1954-1955: 11.5 inches

 

And this one

1996-1997: 10 Inches
1997-1998: 5.5 Inches
1998-1999: 12.7 Inches
1999-2000: 16.3 Inches

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, SACRUS said:

In NYC

A few times came close most notably this stretch

1949-1950: 13.8 inches
1950-1951: 11.6 inches
1951-1952: 19.7 inches
1952- 1953: 15.1 inches
1953- 1954: 15.8 inches
1954-1955: 11.5 inches

wow, overall just going by 6 season snowfall average, that might be even lower than our current 6 season snowless streak!

 

 

[SACRUS]

2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

wow, overall just going by 6 season snowfall average, that might be even lower than our current 6 season snowless streak!

 

 

Added some more stretches above.

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, SACRUS said:

Added some more stretches above.

I did the calculation for the 6 year period during the early 50s and compared it to our current 6 year period, the current period *wins* but just barely 13.9 vs 14.6 for the 6 year period during the early 50s.

[bluewave]

20 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Chris when was the last time all the local airports (LGA, JFK, EWR, ISP) plus the park (NYC) had 15.0 or less inches of snow for 3 years in a row or more? Has it ever happened before?

This is the first time that the combined 3 year snowfall average at EWR, NYC, JFK, LGA, and ISP dipped under 10”. The current 3 year mean is at 8.9”. The old record low from 96-97 to 98-99 was 10.5”. 

[LibertyBell]

12 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

In NYC

A few times came close most notably this stretch

1927-1928: 14.5 inches
1928-1929: 13.8 inches
1929-1930: 13.6 inches
1930- 1931: 11.6 inches
1931-1932: 5.3 inches

then this one

1949-1950: 13.8 inches
1950-1951: 11.6 inches
1951-1952: 19.7 inches
1952- 1953: 15.1 inches
1953- 1954: 15.8 inches
1954-1955: 11.5 inches

 

And this one

1996-1997: 10 Inches
1997-1998: 5.5 Inches
1998-1999: 12.7 Inches
1999-2000: 16.3 Inches

Thanks Tony, the three periods are as follows:

 

1 (5 year average) 11.8

2 (6 year average) 14.6

3 (4 year average) 11.1

[SACRUS]

4 minutes ago, bluewave said:

This is the first time that the combined 3 year snowfall average at EWR, NYC, JFK, LGA, and ISP dipped under 10”. The current 3 year mean is at 8.9”. The old record low from 96-97 to 98-99 was 10.5”. 

Did you run this stretch  - i can get EWR 

 

1929-1930: 13.6 inches
1930- 1931: 11.6 inches
1931-1932: 5.3 inches

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

10 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I did the calculation for the 6 year period during the early 50s and compared it to our current 6 year period, the current period *wins* but just barely 13.9 vs 14.6 for the 6 year period during the early 50s.

It would be interesting to see what the average temps for each period. I would guess that period in the 50's was at least 3-5 degrees colder

[LibertyBell]

Just now, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

It would be interesting to see what the average temps for each period. I would guess that period in the 50's was at least 3-5 degrees colder

Yes, we should do the temperatures too.  The one from the early 30s might actually be warmer than the one from the early 50s.

[LibertyBell]

5 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Did you run this stretch  - i can get EWR 

 

1929-1930: 13.6 inches
1930- 1931: 11.6 inches
1931-1932: 5.3 inches

10.2 wow

[SACRUS]

3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

10.2 wow

I think BW was doing an aggregate of all stations you requested.  

[bluewave]

We are currently on pace for a new 10 year snowfall low average across the area if we don’t get a big increase over the next 3 seasons.  This current 7 year lower running snowfall average began in 18-19. The past slumps were followed by 50” seasons boosting the totals back up in the following years. But reaching such heavy totals in recent years has been a significant challenge. 
 

Lowest 10 year averages and ending year and current 7 year average since 18-19

 

EWR…..1977……19.4”…….2025….17.3”

NYC…..1993……18.8”…….2025….14.9”

LGA…..1977…….17.7”……..2025….16.0”

JFK…..1993….…18.0”…….2025…..14.5”

ISP……1995…….19.3”……..2025…..16.8”

 

[lee59]

9 minutes ago, bluewave said:

We are currently on pace for a new 10 year snowfall low average across the area if we don’t get a big increase over the next 3 seasons.  This current 7 year lower running snowfall average began in 18-19. The past slumps were followed by 50” seasons boosting the totals back up in the following years. But reaching such heavy totals in recent years has been a significant challenge. 
 

Lowest 10 year averages and ending year and current 7 year average since 18-19

 

EWR…..1977……19.4”…….2025….17.3”

NYC…..1993……18.8”…….2025….14.9”

LGA…..1977…….17.7”……..2025….16.0”

JFK…..1993….…18.0”…….2025…..14.5”

ISP……1995…….19.3”……..2025…..16.8”

 

Lets not forget we were coming off probably one of the highest 10 year periods just prior to this. A 10 year average of 38.9. If we keep getting mild winters like the previous 9 to this one, than I would expect lower totals to continue and the previous 10 year period to be a thing of the past. We shall see.

[EastonSN+]

1 hour ago, bluewave said:

This is the first time that the combined 3 year snowfall average at EWR, NYC, JFK, LGA, and ISP dipped under 10”. The current 3 year mean is at 8.9”. The old record low from 96-97 to 98-99 was 10.5”. 

See THIS is how I view climate change. A 1.6 snowfall differential from 25 years ago.

[psv88]

Horrific day today 

[Picard]

This winter continues to be dominated by cold, windy, and very dry days, as noted by the state climatologist.  My skin can attest.
The drought monitor still shows D2/D3 conditions, especially southern NJ.  Maybe this past weekend put a slight dent in it, we'll see on Thursday when the new report is issued.
It's noteworthy how the drought map seems to correlate nicely with a general difficulty to get precipitation to the cost, an issue dating back months.  We do see a lot of radar movements generally northeast through central Pennsylvania and into NY state, and those areas are not showing nearly as dry on the monitor.

Looks like the Wednesday-Friday prospects are off the table.  If anything, another dusting to an inch, followed by more dry wind as the storm passes off well to the south.

[SACRUS]

1 hour ago, bluewave said:

We are currently on pace for a new 10 year snowfall low average across the area if we don’t get a big increase over the next 3 seasons.  This current 7 year lower running snowfall average began in 18-19. The past slumps were followed by 50” seasons boosting the totals back up in the following years. But reaching such heavy totals in recent years has been a significant challenge. 
 

Lowest 10 year averages and ending year and current 7 year average since 18-19

 

EWR…..1977……19.4”…….2025….17.3”

NYC…..1993……18.8”…….2025….14.9”

LGA…..1977…….17.7”……..2025….16.0”

JFK…..1993….…18.0”…….2025…..14.5”

ISP……1995…….19.3”……..2025…..16.8”

 

I can access Newark 1929-1930, 1931-1932, 1931-1932 bus im sure it'll be close to the MYC 10.1 3 year avg.

if you expand the subset to 5 consecutive seasons 27-32 will be the lowest avg i can find.

 

[EastonSN+]

Overall I would grade this winter a c-. 

Normally I would grade a winter with only 50% of average snowfall as a d, however, constant snow coverage which I still have as well as multiple events to track bumps up to a c-.

[Northof78]

I wonder if there ever has been a winter in recent times that has been below or @ normal temperatures in each of the winter months (D,J,F) and also in the aggregate for the entire time period, where we have also seen below average snowfall. 

I cannot think of one. 

It used to be if you could predict overall temperature anomaly of the winter you would predict snowfall as well....not this one

 

[Stormlover74]

2 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

Overall I would grade this winter a c-. 

Normally I would grade a winter with only 50% of average snowfall as a d, however, constant snow coverage which I still have as well as multiple events to track bumps up to a c-.

Yeah I'm in the C/C- camp. 

Positives were cold air and a decent amount of snowcover

Negatives were no 4"+ events. Half normal snowfall and all the big model misses.  This week is leaving a sour taste in my mouth. Also winter looks to be over barring a March comeback 

[bluewave]

1 hour ago, lee59 said:

Lets not forget we were coming off probably one of the highest 10 year periods just prior to this. A 10 year average of 38.9. If we keep getting mild winters like the previous 9 to this one, than I would expect lower totals to continue and the previous 10 year period to be a thing of the past. We shall see.

It just shows how sensitive our snowfall has become to benchmark snowstorms since the 1990s. So we’ll need to see a return of these during the rest of the decade in order to see the snowfall averages areawide go back to the 20-30” range. Something similar happened to State College when they lost the big Appalachian snowstorms over 20 years ago. Their snowfall hasn’t been the same without the major Central PA snowstorms storm tracks which were common up to the early 2000s. 

[psv88]

Snow cover is down to some slush on the grass and some small pockets of snow cover. 12 days to Met spring!

[HeadInTheClouds]

Some of you guys are talking like the winter is over and it's April. It's not. Let's wait another month or so. March is the new December. 

[lee59]

12 minutes ago, bluewave said:

It just shows how sensitive our snowfall has become to benchmark snowstorms since the 1990s. So we’ll need to see a return of these during the rest of the decade in order to see the snowfall averages areawide go back to the 20-30” range. Something similar happened to State College when they lost the big Appalachian snowstorms over 20 years ago. Their snowfall hasn’t been the same without the major Central PA snowstorms which were common up to the early 2000s. 

Ya know this winter seems more wintry to me than some of the winters we had with far more snow, when the snow came mostly in one big storm. At least we have had 3 winter months this year with cold temperatures. Personally, although I am always ready to track a good snowstorm, spring temperatures are sounding real nice.

[winterwx21]

We have to wait to see what happens in March. I know it appears that the month is going to start out mild, but of course it can be a wild month. If we get a significant snowstorm to get closer to average snowfall I would raise the grade to a B, but for now it's a C.

Usually I wouldn't give a C for 14.5 inches of snow, but it has been a cold winter with numerous snow events and extended snowcover. At least it really felt like winter this year, but it's still disappointing that we couldn't get a siginificant snowstorm with the consistent below average temps. This week is especially disappointing since Thursday had big potential. 

[cardinalland]

32 minutes ago, Northof78 said:

I wonder if there ever has been a winter in recent times that has been below or @ normal temperatures in each of the winter months (D,J,F) and also in the aggregate for the entire time period, where we have also seen below average snowfall. 

I cannot think of one. 

It used to be if you could predict overall temperature anomaly of the winter you would predict snowfall as well....not this one

 

69-70 had 25.6" snow, 76-77 had 24.5" snow with 3 BN months. but that was barely below the mean of 25.7", as opposed to the 50% of mean we've gotten so far

[Northof78]

4 minutes ago, cardinalland said:

69-70 had 25.6" snow, 76-77 had 24.5" snow with 3 BN months. but that was barely below the mean of 25.7", as opposed to the 50% of mean we've gotten so far

Very interesting, thanks, yes only small shortfalls, and you had to go back 45 - 55 years to find 2 examples, shows you how rare this outcome is!