LibertyBell Posted Sunday at 01:14 AM Share Posted Sunday at 01:14 AM 1 hour ago, EastonSN+ said: Eh a little different H5. What's hilarious is New Orleans and Destin Florida are doing better this year! These next two storms are analoged to February 1994. If the progression goes the same way we'll have a nice thaw and a break before the pattern reloads at the end of the month and into March. But what we're getting now will likely be the main action for the month until the reload occurs. March should be active through the 20th with snow threats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted Sunday at 01:18 AM Share Posted Sunday at 01:18 AM 3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: These next two storms are analoged to February 1994. If the progression goes the same way we'll have a nice thaw and a break before the pattern reloads at the end of the month and into March. But what we're getting now will likely be the main action for the month until the reload occurs. March should be active through the 20th with snow threats. One thing I would say is watch the big cutter later this week as the block starts to flex there may be a surprise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted Sunday at 02:30 AM Share Posted Sunday at 02:30 AM These next two storms are analoged to February 1994. If the progression goes the same way we'll have a nice thaw and a break before the pattern reloads at the end of the month and into March. But what we're getting now will likely be the main action for the month until the reload occurs. March should be active through the 20th with snow threats. One of my favorites! Perennially overlooked. I can still remember looking out from my middle school classes that morning.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted Sunday at 08:11 AM Share Posted Sunday at 08:11 AM 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Sunday at 12:24 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:24 PM 9 hours ago, North and West said: One of my favorites! Perennially overlooked. I can still remember looking out from my middle school classes that morning. . My first experience with thundersnow and extreme snowfall rates! It's why I love daytime snow so much! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Sunday at 12:27 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:27 PM Snow totals ISP: 4.0 LGA: 3.6 JFK: 3.1 NYC: 3.0 EWR: 3.0 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Sunday at 12:41 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:41 PM 1.5 here (75% sleet) last evening. 33/ 30 and sushy mess. Upper 30s to low 40s in what should be the warmest day (matching Thu) of the next 6. Another 1 - 2 inches of precip forecast over the week and we'll see how much falls wet , white or ice. Snow chances Tuesday currently favoring south but wouldnt rule out the heaviest of the season for many 2 - 8 inch variety. some mix or plain wet rain later Wed - Thu. Warmup 2/15 - 2/16 before much stronger cold by the 17 - 19th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Sunday at 12:43 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:43 PM 15 minutes ago, SACRUS said: Snow totals ISP: 4.0 LGA: 3.6 JFK: 3.1 NYC: 3.0 EWR: 3.0 Here are a few observations from our climate sites as of 1 AM: NYC (Central Park): 3.1" EWR: 3.0" LGA: 3.6" JFK: 3.1" ISP: 4.0" (As of 12AM) Here at the office on Long Island, we received 4.4" as of 1AM. ❄️Please send us your snowfall measurements!❄️ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Sunday at 12:48 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:48 PM Records: Highs: EWR: 63 (1990) NYC: 63 (1990) LGA: 62 (199)) JFK: 60 (1949) Lows: EWR: -14 (1934) coldest observed/recorded at EWR since 1930 NYC: -15 (1934) LGA: 7 (1979) JFK: 8 (1979) Historical: 1870 - President Ulysses S. Grant signed a law "to provide for taking meteorological observations at the military stations in the interior of the continent." A petition submitted by Increase A Lapham to Congressman Halbert E Paine in December 1869 began this process. 1899: One of the most significant cold outbreaks to ever impact the United States occurred early to mid-February. From the 8th-11th, the statewide average temperature across Iowa was 14.6 degrees below zero, making it the coldest four-day stretch on record in the state. On the 8th, Sioux City experienced its coldest day on record, with a daily average temperature of 24 degrees below zero. Then on the 11th, they reached their second-coldest temperature on record with a low of minus 31. Overall the coldest readings were obtained on the morning of the 9th when reported low temperatures included -21 at Keokuk, -23 at Des Moines, -33 at New Hampton, -35 at Le Mars, -38 at Estherville, and -40 at Sibley. The cold across the middle of the country was so extreme and persistent that ice floes down the Mississippi River into the deep south, emerging into the Gulf of Mexico near New Orleans on February 17th. This has happened only one other time: February 13, 1784. The temperature dropped to 63 degrees below zero at Norway House, Manitoba, Canada setting the province's low-temperature record. 1933 - The temperature at Moran, WY, located next to Teton National Park, plunged to 63 degrees below zero to establish a state record. The temperature at the Riverside Ranger Station in Montana dipped to 66 below zero to establish a record for the state, and a record for the nation which stood until 1954. (David Ludlum) 1934 - The mercury dipped to 51 degrees below zero at Vanderbilt to establish a record for the state of Michigan. The temperature at Stillwater plunged to 52 degrees below zero to establish a record for the state of New York. (David Ludlum) 1987 - A storm off the Atlantic coast produced high winds and heavy snow in the northeastern U.S., with blizzard conditions in eastern Massachusetts. Wind gusted to 80 mph and 23.4 inches of snow produced drifts eight feet high at Cape Cod MA. It was the worst blizzard in thirty years for the Cape Cod area. Winds in some of the mountains and ridges of the Appalachian Region gusted to 100 mph. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - Arctic cold invaded the north central U.S. Alliance NE plunged from 44 degrees to 12 above in just two hours, and Mobridge SD reported a wind chill of 64 degrees below zero. Winds along the eastern slopes of the Rockies gusted to 90 mph at Cheyenne WY, and reached 96 mph at Boulder CO. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1989 - A winter storm continued to bring rain and snow to southern California. Snowfall totals ranged up to 18 inches at Olancha, with three inches at Palmdale. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1990 - Thunderstorms developing ahead of a cold front erupted over eastern Texas late in the morning, and produced severe weather as they swept across the southeastern states. Early evening thunderstorms spawned a tornado which injured one person at Nat TX, and produced tennis balls size hail which caused more than half a million dollars damage around Shreveport LA. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1994 - A devastating ice storm struck Mississippi, Louisiana, and extreme northwest Alabama. Freezing rain began falling over northern Mississippi during the early morning hours and continued until midday on the 10th. Ice accumulated 3 to 6 inches thick on exposed objects in the affected area. Due to the weight of the ice, power lines, trees, and tree limbs were down. Nearly one million people were without power after the storm, some for a month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Sunday at 12:51 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:51 PM NYC: Feb 9, 1969 : 15.3 inches of snowfall Feb 9, 2017 : 9.4 inches of snowfall. (62 record high the 8th) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Sunday at 12:53 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:53 PM the Feb, 1969 Lindsay Snowstorm https://thestarryeye.typepad.com/history/2013/02/the-lindsay-snowstorm-feb-9-1969.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Sunday at 12:54 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:54 PM Departures through Feb 8th NYC: -0.6 LGA: 0.0 EWR: +1.1 JFK: +3.4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Sunday at 12:54 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:54 PM 7 minutes ago, SACRUS said: Records: Highs: EWR: 63 (1990) NYC: 63 (1990) LGA: 62 (199)) JFK: 60 (1949) Lows: EWR: -14 (1934) coldest observed/recorded at EWR since 1930 NYC: -15 (1934) LGA: 7 (1979) JFK: 8 (1979) Historical: 1870 - President Ulysses S. Grant signed a law "to provide for taking meteorological observations at the military stations in the interior of the continent." A petition submitted by Increase A Lapham to Congressman Halbert E Paine in December 1869 began this process. 1899: One of the most significant cold outbreaks to ever impact the United States occurred early to mid-February. From the 8th-11th, the statewide average temperature across Iowa was 14.6 degrees below zero, making it the coldest four-day stretch on record in the state. On the 8th, Sioux City experienced its coldest day on record, with a daily average temperature of 24 degrees below zero. Then on the 11th, they reached their second-coldest temperature on record with a low of minus 31. Overall the coldest readings were obtained on the morning of the 9th when reported low temperatures included -21 at Keokuk, -23 at Des Moines, -33 at New Hampton, -35 at Le Mars, -38 at Estherville, and -40 at Sibley. The cold across the middle of the country was so extreme and persistent that ice floes down the Mississippi River into the deep south, emerging into the Gulf of Mexico near New Orleans on February 17th. This has happened only one other time: February 13, 1784. The temperature dropped to 63 degrees below zero at Norway House, Manitoba, Canada setting the province's low-temperature record. 1933 - The temperature at Moran, WY, located next to Teton National Park, plunged to 63 degrees below zero to establish a state record. The temperature at the Riverside Ranger Station in Montana dipped to 66 below zero to establish a record for the state, and a record for the nation which stood until 1954. (David Ludlum) 1934 - The mercury dipped to 51 degrees below zero at Vanderbilt to establish a record for the state of Michigan. The temperature at Stillwater plunged to 52 degrees below zero to establish a record for the state of New York. (David Ludlum) 1987 - A storm off the Atlantic coast produced high winds and heavy snow in the northeastern U.S., with blizzard conditions in eastern Massachusetts. Wind gusted to 80 mph and 23.4 inches of snow produced drifts eight feet high at Cape Cod MA. It was the worst blizzard in thirty years for the Cape Cod area. Winds in some of the mountains and ridges of the Appalachian Region gusted to 100 mph. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - Arctic cold invaded the north central U.S. Alliance NE plunged from 44 degrees to 12 above in just two hours, and Mobridge SD reported a wind chill of 64 degrees below zero. Winds along the eastern slopes of the Rockies gusted to 90 mph at Cheyenne WY, and reached 96 mph at Boulder CO. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1989 - A winter storm continued to bring rain and snow to southern California. Snowfall totals ranged up to 18 inches at Olancha, with three inches at Palmdale. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1990 - Thunderstorms developing ahead of a cold front erupted over eastern Texas late in the morning, and produced severe weather as they swept across the southeastern states. Early evening thunderstorms spawned a tornado which injured one person at Nat TX, and produced tennis balls size hail which caused more than half a million dollars damage around Shreveport LA. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1994 - A devastating ice storm struck Mississippi, Louisiana, and extreme northwest Alabama. Freezing rain began falling over northern Mississippi during the early morning hours and continued until midday on the 10th. Ice accumulated 3 to 6 inches thick on exposed objects in the affected area. Due to the weight of the ice, power lines, trees, and tree limbs were down. Nearly one million people were without power after the storm, some for a month. wow I guess we only got wind from this? 1987 - A storm off the Atlantic coast produced high winds and heavy snow in the northeastern U.S., with blizzard conditions in eastern Massachusetts. Wind gusted to 80 mph and 23.4 inches of snow produced drifts eight feet high at Cape Cod MA. It was the worst blizzard in thirty years for the Cape Cod area. Winds in some of the mountains and ridges of the Appalachian Region gusted to 100 mph. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) and it's the anniversary of the coldest morning in tristate area history in 1934 as well as the great arctic outbreak in 1899!!! Lows: EWR: -14 (1934) coldest observed/recorded at EWR since 1930 NYC: -15 (1934) 1899: One of the most significant cold outbreaks to ever impact the United States occurred early to mid-February. From the 8th-11th, the statewide average temperature across Iowa was 14.6 degrees below zero, making it the coldest four-day stretch on record in the state. On the 8th, Sioux City experienced its coldest day on record, with a daily average temperature of 24 degrees below zero. Then on the 11th, they reached their second-coldest temperature on record with a low of minus 31. Overall the coldest readings were obtained on the morning of the 9th when reported low temperatures included -21 at Keokuk, -23 at Des Moines, -33 at New Hampton, -35 at Le Mars, -38 at Estherville, and -40 at Sibley. The cold across the middle of the country was so extreme and persistent that ice floes down the Mississippi River into the deep south, emerging into the Gulf of Mexico near New Orleans on February 17th. This has happened only one other time: February 13, 1784. The temperature dropped to 63 degrees below zero at Norway House, Manitoba, Canada setting the province's low-temperature record. 1933 - The temperature at Moran, WY, located next to Teton National Park, plunged to 63 degrees below zero to establish a state record. The temperature at the Riverside Ranger Station in Montana dipped to 66 below zero to establish a record for the state, and a record for the nation which stood until 1954. (David Ludlum) 1934 - The mercury dipped to 51 degrees below zero at Vanderbilt to establish a record for the state of Michigan. The temperature at Stillwater plunged to 52 degrees below zero to establish a record for the state of New York. (David Ludlum) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Sunday at 12:55 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:55 PM 3 minutes ago, SACRUS said: NYC: Feb 9, 1969 : 15.3 inches of snowfall Feb 9, 2017 : 9.4 inches of snowfall. (62 record high the 8th) the anniversary of the Lindsey storm (20" at JFK and LGA) and also of the great 1899 and 1934 arctic outbreak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Sunday at 12:58 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:58 PM 3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: wow I guess we only got wind from this? 1987 - A storm off the Atlantic coast produced high winds and heavy snow in the northeastern U.S., with blizzard conditions in eastern Massachusetts. Wind gusted to 80 mph and 23.4 inches of snow produced drifts eight feet high at Cape Cod MA. It was the worst blizzard in thirty years for the Cape Cod area. Winds in some of the mountains and ridges of the Appalachian Region gusted to 100 mph. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) and it's the anniversary of the coldest morning in tristate area history in 1934 as well as the great arctic outbreak in 1899!!! Feb 9, 1987 at NYC : 40/18 : 0.24 (.4 snow) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Sunday at 01:00 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:00 PM 1 minute ago, SACRUS said: Feb 9, 1987 at NYC : 40/18 : 0.24 (.4 snow) almost 20:1 ratio lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted Sunday at 01:00 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:00 PM Another case of a -4 or lower -AO linking up with the Southeast Ridge which didn’t happen before 2020. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Sunday at 01:02 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:02 PM Daylight: 10H:26M Sunrise: 6:56 AM Sunset : 5:23 PM Roughly equivalent to Halloween Gained : 61 minutes (one hour and a minute) from the Dec 21 lull Adding an additional 2m21 -30 seconds of daylight each day the next week. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Sunday at 01:04 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:04 PM Models consistent with forecasting and keeping trough into the NE next weekend / week (17th) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Sunday at 01:10 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:10 PM 9 minutes ago, bluewave said: Another case of a -4 or lower -AO linking up with the Southeast Ridge which didn’t happen before 2020. a southbased block again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted Sunday at 01:21 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:21 PM The upcoming week: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted Sunday at 01:27 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:27 PM 25 minutes ago, bluewave said: Another case of a -4 or lower -AO linking up with the Southeast Ridge which didn’t happen before 2020. How is this not all rain throughout all three forums, Mid Atlantic, Philadelphia, and NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Sunday at 01:28 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:28 PM 8 minutes ago, bluewave said: Yeah, it’s why the 11-12th may be one of the few events coming up that doesn’t mix with rain in NYC. Helps push the gradient further north. It also could lead to flooding down the road in interior spots that build up a deep enough snow pack when a storm rides too far north. think it will break NYC's 4" snowless streak or will it fall just short? Getting back to back 3" snowfalls within a few days of each other is still something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Sunday at 01:30 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:30 PM 7 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: The upcoming week: Philadelphia and Boston both have a higher probability of 4" than NYC does 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted Sunday at 02:07 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:07 PM I like this look. Slows down in 8. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted Sunday at 02:18 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:18 PM AO also freefalls 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Sunday at 02:34 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:34 PM No shortage of precip in the forecast, also more rains for So Cal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Sunday at 02:46 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:46 PM 2 hours ago, SACRUS said: Snow totals ISP: 4.0 LGA: 3.6 JFK: 3.1 NYC: 3.0 EWR: 3.0 Was there a snowfall total update? JFK snow amount updated to 3.4".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted Sunday at 02:53 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:53 PM 2 hours ago, SACRUS said: NYC: Feb 9, 1969 : 15.3 inches of snowfall Feb 9, 2017 : 9.4 inches of snowfall. (62 record high the 8th) Both in the two epic snowfall periods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted Sunday at 02:55 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:55 PM 1 hour ago, bluewave said: Another case of a -4 or lower -AO linking up with the Southeast Ridge which didn’t happen before 2020. Not trying to argue however do we have definitive evidence that this never ever occurred before? Recorded times that is. When did we start observing h5 and the weather community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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