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9 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

a winter average temperature below 32.0 is what truly constitutes a cold winter....

 

 

This could be our first decade without a NYC winter near 32°.

 

Coldest NYC winters of each decade

2020s…..34.8° so far 

2010s……31.4°

2000s…..31.2°

1990s……31.1°

1980s…...32.6°

1970s…….28.4°

1960s……29.9°

1950s…...30.8°

1940s…..30.0°

1930s…..28.3°

1920s…..29.9°

1910s……25.7°

1900s…..27.3°

1890s…..28.6°

1880s…..26.5°

1870s…..27.7°

 

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1 minute ago, bluewave said:

This could be our first decade without a NYC winter near 32°.

 

Coldest NYC winters of each decade

2020s…..34.8° so far 

2010s……31.4°

2000s…..31.2°

1990s……31.1°

1980s…...32.6°

1970s…….28.4°

1960s……29.9°

1950s…...30.8°

1940s…..30.0°

1930s…..28.3°

1920s…..29.9°

1910s……25.7°

1900s…..27.3°

1890s…..28.6°

1880s…..26.5°

1870s…..27.7°

 

wow this difference from previous decades is really shocking-- this alone speaks more to what should concern us than any snowfall totals.

 

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59 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

wow this difference from previous decades is really shocking-- this alone speaks more to what should concern us than any snowfall totals.

 

The biggest issue has been that the storm tracks have been too warm for much snow. While NYC generally has needed winter average temperatures near 32.0° for bigger seasons approaching 50” or higher, they have reached 20-30” or more with warmer winters that had cold enough storm tracks. We saw this in 15-16, 16-17, 17-18, and 20-21.

So while this winter had near average historical temperatures, the storm tracks were too warm. This lead to the average temperature for the days on which .25 or more of precipitation fell to be 41.5°. This was significantly warmer than the winter average temperature of 34.8°. So this only gave NYC 12.9” of snow.

The temperature in 86-87 also averaged 34.8°. But the average temperature on the days that .25 or more of precipitation fell was 37.0°. So the storm tracks were cold enough for 23.1” of snow on the season which was within a few inches of average. 

 

 

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On 2/13/2025 at 10:38 PM, SnoSki14 said:

Ridge placement looks bad out west. Unfortunately I think the 20th is a southern slider. 

Parts of Mid Atlantic/SE will end up with more snow than us this winter. 

Correct

On 2/13/2025 at 11:21 PM, Heisy said:

This reeks of an nyc-sne special. I’d be excited if I were you guys


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If only

On 2/13/2025 at 11:24 PM, MJO812 said:

The pattern will be the best so far this season. The AO is crashing towards negative 5 and when that happens , get ready.

Fail 

On 2/14/2025 at 12:42 AM, brooklynwx99 said:

can’t believe we went four for four tonight 

I'm still depressed over this.

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20 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

wow this difference from previous decades is really shocking-- this alone speaks more to what should concern us than any snowfall totals.

 

No coincidence that the 1980s represented the last spike as we are replicating the cold dry warm wet pattern. Only 2.2 higher than the coldest that decade. 

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