February 2025

[bluewave]

55 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Coming years? It looks like you would need to have snow on or before November 22, 2025 in order to not match or surpass that record?

It will take Islip longer than NYC.

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 5 
for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY
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1	1503	1969-12-28 through 1974-02-07
2	1205	1989-11-24 through 1993-03-12
3	1123	2022-01-30 through 2025-02-25
4	1061	1984-03-29 through 1987-02-22
5	1000	2018-03-22 through 2020-12-15
6	758	1997-02-15 through 1999-03-14
7	744	1979-02-20 through 1981-03-04
8	742	2011-01-28 through 2013-02-07
9	689	1967-03-23 through 1969-02-08
10	655	1999-03-16 through 2000-12-29

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 5 
for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
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Period of record: 1869-01-01 to 2025-02-25
1	1394	1929-02-22 through 1932-12-16
2	1123	2022-01-30 through 2025-02-25
3	1063	1949-03-01 through 1952-01-27
4	1051	1961-02-05 through 1963-12-22
5	794	1954-01-12 through 1956-03-15
6	764	1996-02-17 through 1998-03-21
7	761	2018-11-16 through 2020-12-15
8	744	1979-02-20 through 1981-03-04
9	742	2011-01-28 through 2013-02-07
-	742	1918-01-23 through 1920-02-03

 

 

[MANDA]

55 minutes ago, bluewave said:

It will take Islip longer than NYC.

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 5 
for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY
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1	1503	1969-12-28 through 1974-02-07
2	1205	1989-11-24 through 1993-03-12
3	1123	2022-01-30 through 2025-02-25
4	1061	1984-03-29 through 1987-02-22
5	1000	2018-03-22 through 2020-12-15
6	758	1997-02-15 through 1999-03-14
7	744	1979-02-20 through 1981-03-04
8	742	2011-01-28 through 2013-02-07
9	689	1967-03-23 through 1969-02-08
10	655	1999-03-16 through 2000-12-29

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 5 
for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
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Period of record: 1869-01-01 to 2025-02-25
1	1394	1929-02-22 through 1932-12-16
2	1123	2022-01-30 through 2025-02-25
3	1063	1949-03-01 through 1952-01-27
4	1051	1961-02-05 through 1963-12-22
5	794	1954-01-12 through 1956-03-15
6	764	1996-02-17 through 1998-03-21
7	761	2018-11-16 through 2020-12-15
8	744	1979-02-20 through 1981-03-04
9	742	2011-01-28 through 2013-02-07
-	742	1918-01-23 through 1920-02-03

 

 

I may have missed it but where does CP stand for consecutive days with <4" of snowfall?

That record is still ongoing right?

Thanks in advance.

[NorthShoreWx]

7 hours ago, bluewave said:

It will take Islip longer than NYC.

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 5 
for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY
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1	1503	1969-12-28 through 1974-02-07
2	1205	1989-11-24 through 1993-03-12
3	1123	2022-01-30 through 2025-02-25
4	1061	1984-03-29 through 1987-02-22
5	1000	2018-03-22 through 2020-12-15
6	758	1997-02-15 through 1999-03-14
7	744	1979-02-20 through 1981-03-04
8	742	2011-01-28 through 2013-02-07
9	689	1967-03-23 through 1969-02-08
10	655	1999-03-16 through 2000-12-29

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 5 
for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
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Period of record: 1869-01-01 to 2025-02-25
1	1394	1929-02-22 through 1932-12-16
2	1123	2022-01-30 through 2025-02-25
3	1063	1949-03-01 through 1952-01-27
4	1051	1961-02-05 through 1963-12-22
5	794	1954-01-12 through 1956-03-15
6	764	1996-02-17 through 1998-03-21
7	761	2018-11-16 through 2020-12-15
8	744	1979-02-20 through 1981-03-04
9	742	2011-01-28 through 2013-02-07
-	742	1918-01-23 through 1920-02-03

 

 

I did some research into ISP snowfall records years ago and came away with the belief that those datasets are not of equal quality.  Perhaps the 1503 day streak is correct but I'm not confident.

[bluewave]

13 hours ago, MANDA said:

I may have missed it but where does CP stand for consecutive days with <4" of snowfall?

That record is still ongoing right?

Thanks in advance.

Yeah, LGA already set the new record for under 4” days this season currently at 1123 and NYC is getting close to their record.
 

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 4 
for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY
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Period of record: 1940-01-01 to 2025-02-25
1	1123	2025-02-25
2	1051	1963-12-22
3	761	2020-12-15
4	746	1952-02-29
5	744	1981-03-04
6	743	1998-03-21
7	742	2013-02-07
8	715	1974-02-07
9	701	1977-01-13
10	690	1943-01-27

 

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 4 
for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
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Last value also occurred in one or more previous years.
Period of record: 1869-01-01 to 2025-02-25
1	1394	1932-12-16
2	1123	2025-02-25
3	1063	1952-01-27
4	1051	1963-12-22
5	794	1956-03-15
6	743	1998-03-21
7	742	1920-02-03
8	687	1981-01-06
9	685	1974-01-08
10	680	1954-01-10

[Brian5671]

Some sprinkles here.  Dry pattern continues...

[MJO812]

10 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Some sprinkles here.  Dry pattern continues...

It is supposed to rain this morning 

[Brian5671]

Just now, MJO812 said:

It is supposed to rain this morning 

We will be lucky to get .10

[SACRUS]

44 / 40 with 0.07 in the bucket.   Light rain / drizzle.  Warm (above normal) continues the next 60 hours.   Much colder Sunday and Monday.  Chance at some meaningful rain next Tue evening and Wednesday.  Overall colder the period 3/2 - 3/11.   Could turn warmer to much warmer or warm/wet beyond there.

 

 

https://cdn.star.nesdis.noaa.gov//GOES16/ABI/SECTOR/NE/GEOCOLOR/GOES16-NE-GEOCOLOR-600x600.gif 

[SACRUS]

 

Records:
 

Highs:

EWR: 74 (1997)
NYC: 72 (1997)
LGA: 73 (1997)
JFK: 71 (1997)


Lows:

EWR: 7 (1934)
NYC: 5 (1900)
LGA: 9 (1950)
JFK: 9 (1950)

 

Historical:

 

1717 - What was perhaps the greatest snow in New England history commenced on this date. During a ten day period a series of four snowstorms dumped three feet of snow upon Boston, and the city was snowbound for two weeks. Up to six feet of snow was reported farther to the north, and drifts covered many one story homes. (David Ludlum)

1969 - A record snowstorm in Maine came to an end. Two to four feet of snow buried southern and central Maine, with a state record of 57 inches reported at West Forks. Drifts covered many single story homes, and the weight of the snow collapsed many roofs. Two to four feet of snow also buried northeastern Vermont and northeastern Massachusetts. In New Hampshire, Mount Washington NH reported 97.8 inches of snow, a record storm total for New England. (24th-28th) (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

1986: It was 99 degrees in Palm Springs, California, the highest temperature on record for February. Palm Springs also reached 99 degrees on February 26, 1986.

1987 - A storm spread heavy snow into the Central High Plains Region, and produced severe thunderstorms in the Southern Plains. Snowfall totals in western Nebraska ranged up to 19 inches at Sydney. Severe thunderstorms in Oklahoma produced baseball size hail at Stringtown and Atoka. A storm in the eastern U.S. produced heavy rain over the Carolinas and heavy snow in the southern Appalachians and piedmont region. Five inches of rain left four feet of water in the streets of Greenville SC. Snowfall totals in southwestern Virginia ranged up to 20 inches. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Thunderstorms along a cold front produced heavy rain in southern California, with up to 2.52 inches reported in Ventura County. Strong winds accompanying the rain gusted to 55 mph in the Tehachapi Mountains. Rapid City SD established a February record with an afternoon high of 75 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Rain and snow prevailed in the southeastern U.S. Up to eight inches of snow blanketed north central Tennessee, and snowfall totals in western North Carolina ranged up to 14 inches at Mount Mitchell. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1990 - A winter storm produced heavy snow in southeastern Colorado, with 12 inches reported at Lamar. The same storm produced severe thunderstorms over the Southern High Plains, with wind gusts to 93 mph reported at the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. Low pressure brought high winds to the Prince William Sound area of Alaska. Big River Lakes reported wind gusts to 92 mph. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

2010 - A weak EF0 tornado causes no damage as it moved across California's southern San Joaquin Valley. However it is the only tornado reported in the United States during the month. According to the Storm Prediction Center only five months since 1950 have lacked a tornado report. The Weather Doctor

[LibertyBell]

15 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:
 

Highs:

EWR: 74 (1997)
NYC: 72 (1997)
LGA: 73 (1997)
JFK: 71 (1997)


Lows:

EWR: 7 (1934)
NYC: 5 (1900)
LGA: 9 (1950)
JFK: 9 (1950)

 

Historical:

 

1717 - What was perhaps the greatest snow in New England history commenced on this date. During a ten day period a series of four snowstorms dumped three feet of snow upon Boston, and the city was snowbound for two weeks. Up to six feet of snow was reported farther to the north, and drifts covered many one story homes. (David Ludlum)

1969 - A record snowstorm in Maine came to an end. Two to four feet of snow buried southern and central Maine, with a state record of 57 inches reported at West Forks. Drifts covered many single story homes, and the weight of the snow collapsed many roofs. Two to four feet of snow also buried northeastern Vermont and northeastern Massachusetts. In New Hampshire, Mount Washington NH reported 97.8 inches of snow, a record storm total for New England. (24th-28th) (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

1986: It was 99 degrees in Palm Springs, California, the highest temperature on record for February. Palm Springs also reached 99 degrees on February 26, 1986.

1987 - A storm spread heavy snow into the Central High Plains Region, and produced severe thunderstorms in the Southern Plains. Snowfall totals in western Nebraska ranged up to 19 inches at Sydney. Severe thunderstorms in Oklahoma produced baseball size hail at Stringtown and Atoka. A storm in the eastern U.S. produced heavy rain over the Carolinas and heavy snow in the southern Appalachians and piedmont region. Five inches of rain left four feet of water in the streets of Greenville SC. Snowfall totals in southwestern Virginia ranged up to 20 inches. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Thunderstorms along a cold front produced heavy rain in southern California, with up to 2.52 inches reported in Ventura County. Strong winds accompanying the rain gusted to 55 mph in the Tehachapi Mountains. Rapid City SD established a February record with an afternoon high of 75 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Rain and snow prevailed in the southeastern U.S. Up to eight inches of snow blanketed north central Tennessee, and snowfall totals in western North Carolina ranged up to 14 inches at Mount Mitchell. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1990 - A winter storm produced heavy snow in southeastern Colorado, with 12 inches reported at Lamar. The same storm produced severe thunderstorms over the Southern High Plains, with wind gusts to 93 mph reported at the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. Low pressure brought high winds to the Prince William Sound area of Alaska. Big River Lakes reported wind gusts to 92 mph. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

2010 - A weak EF0 tornado causes no damage as it moved across California's southern San Joaquin Valley. However it is the only tornado reported in the United States during the month. According to the Storm Prediction Center only five months since 1950 have lacked a tornado report. The Weather Doctor

1717 - What was perhaps the greatest snow in New England history commenced on this date. During a ten day period a series of four snowstorms dumped three feet of snow upon Boston, and the city was snowbound for two weeks. Up to six feet of snow was reported farther to the north, and drifts covered many one story homes. (David Ludlum)

 

I wonder how much we got from this storm and in this historic winter?

 

[SACRUS]

 

Rain next Tue nigt / Wed make up for the majority of this weekly precip forecast

 

[SACRUS]

9 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

1717 - What was perhaps the greatest snow in New England history commenced on this date. During a ten day period a series of four snowstorms dumped three feet of snow upon Boston, and the city was snowbound for two weeks. Up to six feet of snow was reported farther to the north, and drifts covered many one story homes. (David Ludlum)

 

I wonder how much we got from this storm and in this historic winter?

 

https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/great-snow-1717/

 

https://www.untappedhistory.com/single-post/2018/01/04/the-great-snow-of-1717

 

 

[LibertyBell]

34 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

Rain next Tue nigt / Wed make up for the majority of this weekly precip forecast

 

also a warm up coming with this rain, temperatures in the 50s after the two day cold shot

[MANDA]

4 hours ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, LGA already set the new record for under 4” days this season currently at 1123 and NYC is getting close to their record.
 

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 4 
for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY
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Period of record: 1940-01-01 to 2025-02-25
1	1123	2025-02-25
2	1051	1963-12-22
3	761	2020-12-15
4	746	1952-02-29
5	744	1981-03-04
6	743	1998-03-21
7	742	2013-02-07
8	715	1974-02-07
9	701	1977-01-13
10	690	1943-01-27

 

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 4 
for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
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Last value also occurred in one or more previous years.
Period of record: 1869-01-01 to 2025-02-25
1	1394	1932-12-16
2	1123	2025-02-25
3	1063	1952-01-27
4	1051	1963-12-22
5	794	1956-03-15
6	743	1998-03-21
7	742	1920-02-03
8	687	1981-01-06
9	685	1974-01-08
10	680	1954-01-10

Thanks!

Any idea where CP stands on <6"?

[Allsnow]

18 hours ago, bluewave said:

It will take Islip longer than NYC.

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 5 
for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

1	1503	1969-12-28 through 1974-02-07
2	1205	1989-11-24 through 1993-03-12
3	1123	2022-01-30 through 2025-02-25
4	1061	1984-03-29 through 1987-02-22
5	1000	2018-03-22 through 2020-12-15
6	758	1997-02-15 through 1999-03-14
7	744	1979-02-20 through 1981-03-04
8	742	2011-01-28 through 2013-02-07
9	689	1967-03-23 through 1969-02-08
10	655	1999-03-16 through 2000-12-29

Number of Consecutive Days Snowfall < 5 
for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Period of record: 1869-01-01 to 2025-02-25
1	1394	1929-02-22 through 1932-12-16
2	1123	2022-01-30 through 2025-02-25
3	1063	1949-03-01 through 1952-01-27
4	1051	1961-02-05 through 1963-12-22
5	794	1954-01-12 through 1956-03-15
6	764	1996-02-17 through 1998-03-21
7	761	2018-11-16 through 2020-12-15
8	744	1979-02-20 through 1981-03-04
9	742	2011-01-28 through 2013-02-07
-	742	1918-01-23 through 1920-02-03

 

 

Boston broke their <4 consecutive snowfall this winter. They will challenge <6 soon 

[Snowlover11]

cant even manage enough rain to wash the damn salt off the roads.

[Brian5671]

1 minute ago, Snowlover11 said:

cant even manage enough rain to wash the damn salt off the roads.

Dry begets dry

[bluewave]

Another season dominated by the cutter, hugger, and suppressed Southern Stream storm tracks. Since 18-19 we only had a brief relaxation of this pattern during 20-21 and Jan 22. The much faster Northern Stream of the Pacific Jet seems to be interfering with a benchmark snowstorm track pattern. This has lead to the very low snowfall totals over this period. 

The Western Trough in one set of outcomes overamplifies with too much wave spacing pumping the Southeast Ridge leading to the Great Lakes Cutter track.

The next group has slightly less wave spacing leading to a track which hugs the I-78, I-80, or I-95 corridor leading to snow to rain outcomes favoring closer to I-84 and north for best snows.

Then the third grouping has a kicker coming onto the West causing the Southern Stream system to get suppressed to our south with just light snows or no snow at all.

Not sure what it could take in coming seasons to change up this pattern. Maybe a shift in the many ongoing marine heatwaves. But very uncertain since this jet and storm track pattern emerged with the rapid expansion of these marine heatwaves around 2019. 

Seasonal animation below illustrates this snowfall and storm track pattern 

 

[LibertyBell]

4 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Another season dominated by the cutter, hugger, and suppressed Southern Stream storm tracks. Since 18-19 we only had a brief relaxation of this pattern during 20-21 and Jan 22. The much faster Northern Stream of the Pacific Jet seems to be interfering with a benchmark snowstorm track pattern.

The Western Trough in one set of outcomes overamplifies with too much wave spacing pumping the Southeast Ridge leading to the Great Lakes Cutter track.

The next group has slightly less wave spacing leading to a track which hugs the I-78, I-80, or I-95 corridor leading to snow to rain outcomes favoring closer to I-84 and north for best snows.

Then the third grouping has a kicker coming onto the West causing the Southern Stream system to get suppressed to our south with just light snows or no snow at all.

Not sure what it could take in coming seasons to change up this pattern. Maybe a shift in the many ongoing marine heatwaves. But very uncertain since this jet and storm track pattern emerged with the rapid expansion of these marine heatwaves around 2019. 

 

 

Minneapolis only had 16.4 inches of snowfall this winter, they are in even worse shape.

[Allsnow]

13 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Another season dominated by the cutter, hugger, and suppressed Southern Stream storm tracks. Since 18-19 we only had a brief relaxation of this pattern during 20-21 and Jan 22. The much faster Northern Stream of the Pacific Jet seems to be interfering with a benchmark snowstorm track pattern. This has lead to the very low snowfall totals over this period. 

The Western Trough in one set of outcomes overamplifies with too much wave spacing pumping the Southeast Ridge leading to the Great Lakes Cutter track.

The next group has slightly less wave spacing leading to a track which hugs the I-78, I-80, or I-95 corridor leading to snow to rain outcomes favoring closer to I-84 and north for best snows.

Then the third grouping has a kicker coming onto the West causing the Southern Stream system to get suppressed to our south with just light snows or no snow at all.

Not sure what it could take in coming seasons to change up this pattern. Maybe a shift in the many ongoing marine heatwaves. But very uncertain since this jet and storm track pattern emerged with the rapid expansion of these marine heatwaves around 2019. 

Seasonal animation below illustrates this snowfall and storm track pattern 

 

So 85% of the other storm tracks are happening more 

 

got it 

[Allsnow]

8 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Minneapolis only had 16.4 inches of snowfall this winter, they are in even worse shape.

Yup, on their way to least snowiest winter on record d

[Brian5671]

9 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Minneapolis only had 16.4 inches of snowfall this winter, they are in even worse shape.

Many locations with below ave snow nationwide-nothing amplified so it was small potatoes almost everywhere except the gulf coast

[Brian5671]

1 minute ago, Allsnow said:

Yup, on their way to least snowiest winter on record d

Can snow there for another 2 months though so likely a few more events unlike here where we are likely done

[MJO812]

16 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Minneapolis only had 16.4 inches of snowfall this winter, they are in even worse shape.

They had 90 inches last winter

[Allsnow]

4 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

They had 90 inches last winter

Two winters ago, last winter was below avg as well 

[Allsnow]

10 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Can snow there for another 2 months though so likely a few more events unlike here where we are likely done

They would need 10-15 inches which is not easy in the new climate late in the season 

[bluewave]

21 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

So 85% of the other storm tracks are happening more 

 

got it 

We haven’t had an average midrange 19” to 30” or above normal snowfall season since the 1990s without at least one big benchmark or KU snowstorm. So pretty much a 100% chance of below to much below snowfall with only the cutter, hugger, and suppressed Southern Stream storm tracks.

But while the near BM tracks are necessary, they aren’t always sufficient to reach average to above as western sections found out in 2022.

From the 1960s to early 1990s we could get to 19” or above some seasons without benchmark tracks or KUs. Since it was cold enough back then with enough of the other type of tracks we got which included clippers which we hardly ever see these days.

Also SWFEs that had better cold air and high pressure for heavier snows. I think our last big overperforming SWFE type low was the 6”+ event in November 2018.

[MJO812]

17 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Two winters ago, last winter was below avg as well 

Damn time is flying 

[Allsnow]

14 minutes ago, bluewave said:

We haven’t had an average midrange 19” to 30” or above normal snowfall season since the 1990s without at least one big benchmark or KU snowstorm. So pretty much a 100% chance of below to much below snowfall with only the cutter, hugger, and suppressed Southern Stream storm tracks.

But while the near BM tracks are necessary, they aren’t always sufficient to reach average to above as western sections found out in 2022.

From the 1960s to early 1990s we could get to 19” or above some seasons without benchmark tracks or KUs. Since it was cold enough back then with enough of the other type of tracks we got which included clippers which we hardly ever see these days.

Also SWFEs that had better cold air and high pressure for heavier snows. I think our last big overperforming SWFE type low was the 6”+ event in November 2018.

December 2020 was more of a swfe? 

[LibertyBell]

16 minutes ago, bluewave said:

We haven’t had an average midrange 19” to 30” or above normal snowfall season since the 1990s without at least one big benchmark or KU snowstorm. So pretty much a 100% chance of below to much below snowfall with only the cutter, hugger, and suppressed Southern Stream storm tracks.

But while the near BM tracks are necessary, they aren’t always sufficient to reach average to above as western sections found out in 2022.

From the 1960s to early 1990s we could get to 19” or above some seasons without benchmark tracks or KUs. Since it was cold enough back then with enough of the other type of tracks we got which included clippers which we hardly ever see these days.

Also SWFEs that had better cold air and high pressure for heavier snows. I think our last big overperforming SWFE type low was the 6”+ event in November 2018.

It is a little difficult to figure out why benchmark tracks would specifically be impacted so much vs hugger tracks which are not that different from them.  Maybe it has to do with the interaction of the SE Ridge and the Pacific Jet? If we didn't have the -5 AO everything would have cut this season.

I think you could still get benchmark tracks even with a fast Pacific Jet if the SE Ridge was less strong in February OR if it was stronger in January and could have prevented those extremely suppressed tracks.