February 2025

[Stormlover74]

15 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

1989 - A total of thirty-three cities in the eastern U.S. reported new record low temperatures for the date, and an Atlantic coast storm spread heavy snow from Georgia to southern New England. Snowfall totals in New Jersey ranged up to 24 inches in May County, with 19 inches reported at Atlantic City. Totals in North Carolina ranged up to 18 inches in Gates County, and winds along the coast of North Carolina gusted to 70 mph at Duck Pier. Strong winds gusting to 52 mph created blizzard conditions at Chatham MA. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

This was the infamous snow bust for us!

Thr crazy part is Norfolk had 15" a week prior 

[LibertyBell]

Just now, bluewave said:

Looks like a back and forth pattern into early March before we eventually shift into full time spring mode.

Feb 24 to Mar 3

Mar 3 to 10

Mar 10 to 17

 

So somewhere between March 10-15 is when we switch into full time Spring Mode, Chris?

 

[LibertyBell]

Just now, Stormlover74 said:

Thr crazy part is Norfolk had 15" a week prior 

wow and we missed both snowstorms didn't we?

Was that Norfolk's record for most snow in a month?

I think their seasonal record is over 40"?

 

[bluewave]

Just now, LibertyBell said:

So somewhere between March 10-15 is when we switch into full time Spring Mode, Chris?

 

Yeah, after the first week of March both the extended EPS and GEFS finally have a more durable warm up. But it looks like fits and starts before then. This colder pattern since January 1st is going to take time to shift. But as in the past when we had these cooler runs, the warm ups that followed were even more impressive than the cooler weather we experienced.

[LibertyBell]

Just now, bluewave said:

Yeah, after the first week of March both the extended EPS and GEFS finally have a more durable warm up. But it looks like fits and starts before then. This colder pattern since January 1st is going to take time to shift. But as in the past when we had these cooler runs, the warm ups that followed were even more impressive than the cooler weather we experienced.

and it sounds like the cooler weather to come in the first week of March will be less impressive than earlier forecasts too.

[SACRUS]

1 minute ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, after the first week of March both the extended EPS and GEFS finally have a more durable warm up. But it looks like fits and starts before then. This colder pattern since January 1st is going to take time to shift. But as in the past when we had these cooler runs, the warm ups that followed were even more impressive than the cooler weather we experienced.

Can also see a scenario the warmup is muted by a less warm and wet period 11 - 21.  Will be interesting to track.

[SACRUS]

1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

and it sounds like the cooler weather to come in the first week of March will be less impressive than earlier forecasts too.

Coldest still forecast to be 3/2 - 3/3.  

[gravitylover]

1 minute ago, SACRUS said:

Can also see a scenario the warmup is muted by a less warm and wet period 11 - 21.  Will be interesting to track.

Wet is good, better if the ground thaws first otherwise the only beneficiaries will be the reservoirs and downstream users.

[Stormlover74]

7 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

wow and we missed both snowstorms didn't we?

Was that Norfolk's record for most snow in a month?

I think their seasonal record is over 40"?

 

Yes 22". More than double our seasonal snowfall that winter

[Nibor]

3 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Can also see a scenario the warmup is muted by a less warm and wet period 11 - 21.  Will be interesting to track.

That was the theme for the most part this winter. Cooler and dryer. 

[LibertyBell]

5 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Can also see a scenario the warmup is muted by a less warm and wet period 11 - 21.  Will be interesting to track.

How warm are we talking about Tony-- 50s but nothing 60 or higher?

[bluewave]

16 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Can also see a scenario the warmup is muted by a less warm and wet period 11 - 21.  Will be interesting to track.

Once the TPV consolidates in mid-March, we could see our first 70° readings by St Patrick’s Day. 

[Krs4Lfe]

What I find interesting is that, even in years like 2019, 2022, and 2023—which were not particularly snowy for the New York City area—there were still significant storms across the country. There were also interesting storms to track, even if they didn’t impact this region. It’s worth noting that eastern New England and parts of the Mid-Atlantic did experience a notable snow year in 2022, and in 2023, snowfall records were broken across the West Coast, Rocky Mountains, and parts of the Upper Midwest. Cities like Minneapolis and Bismarck had exceptional snowfall seasons, surpassing 100 inches, while some locations in the Rockies reported totals of up to 400 inches.

In contrast, last winter (2024) and this winter (2025) have been largely devoid of significant storms, except for brief windows in January and early February. Unlike previous years, there have been very few large-scale storms affecting a broad swath of the country. Even by The Weather Channel’s metric for naming winter storms—where a storm is named if over 2 million people are under a winter storm warning or blizzard warning—both this year and last year have been lacking. In fact, this season has had a record-low number of named winter storms, with only 11 so far, compared to the usual 17 or 18 by this point in the season.

This trend highlights how the past two winters haven’t been favorable for snowfall in most areas, aside from parts of the Deep South. I assume that, with climate change, this pattern will only become more pronounced—favoring snow accumulation in the far north and Great Lakes regions, as well as in the Deep South, but leaving much of the country in between with significantly reduced snowfall. I expect this to be the new normal.

[psv88]

26 this morning, up to 43.

Florida is horrible in the summer. It rains every afternoon. Boating is miserable there in the summer. You are being chased by storms and when you are not it’s 7000 degrees and oppressive outside. Truly horrific and most people stay indoors. 
 

the winter in Florida is not great for boating either. It’s usually very windy and unless you are by the keys can often be very cool. 

[Brian5671]

2 minutes ago, psv88 said:

26 this morning, up to 43.

Florida is horrible in the summer. It rains every afternoon. Boating is miserable there in the summer. You are being chased by storms and when you are not it’s 7000 degrees and oppressive outside. Truly horrific and most people stay indoors. 
 

the winter in Florida is not great for boating either. It’s usually very windy and unless you are by the keys can often be very cool. 

Buggy in the summer.   I've boated near Naples in the winter and spring and it was fine but maybe we had nice days...

[uofmiami]

Just now, Brian5671 said:

Buggy in the summer.   I've boated near Naples in the winter and spring and it was fine but maybe we had nice days...

If you live there fulltime you can boat year round, especially in S FL.  Summer T-storms you know when they occur, it was like clockwork at UM campus that between 3-5pm they form along sea breeze boundary and pop over the campus during summer sessions I took.   If it's breezy in winter, most will stay in the intracoastal to avoid chop on ocean until it subsides.  

[psv88]

4 minutes ago, uofmiami said:

If you live there fulltime you can boat year round, especially in S FL.  Summer T-storms you know when they occur, it was like clockwork at UM campus that between 3-5pm they form along sea breeze boundary and pop over the campus during summer sessions I took.   If it's breezy in winter, most will stay in the intracoastal to avoid chop on ocean until it subsides.  

My father lives in Naples and had a boat. My sister lives in Davie and also has a boat. Father in law lives in Deerfield also with a boat. 
 

nobody does anything outside in Florida in the summer. It’s horrific and they all come up north for the summer. Their summer is our winter, everyone leaves and those who stay remain inside, especially during the daytime. 
 

yes. You can boat from 9 am to noon generally without storms, but that’s not exactly enjoying a relaxing day on the water. 

[Brian5671]

1 minute ago, psv88 said:

My father lives in Naples and had a boat. My sister lives in Davie and also has a boat. Father in law lives in Deerfield also with a boat. 
 

nobody does anything outside in Florida in the summer. It’s horrific and they all come up north for the summer. Their summer is our winter, everyone leaves and those who stay remain inside, especially during the daytime. 
 

yes. You can boat from 9 am to noon generally without storms, but that’s not exactly enjoying a relaxing day on the water. 

yeah my folks come north in May-the people that stay year round tend to do their travel in the summer and stay home in the winter when it's 78 and sunny every day.

[psv88]

3 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

yeah my folks come north in May-the people that stay year round tend to do their travel in the summer and stay home in the winter when it's 78 and sunny every day.

Yep. My father has a Davis weather station that I can view on my Davis App. Lately it’s been 75-80 everyday, same for this week. 

[Stormlover74]

They took us out in an airboat in the everglades during a torrential thunderstorm. Truly thought we were going to die

[LibertyBell]

19 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

They took us out in an airboat in the everglades during a torrential thunderstorm. Truly thought we were going to die

What are those things like? They look fun.

[Stormlover74]

4 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

What are those things like? They look fun.

I don't remember. I was praying too hard that we wouldn't crash, drown, get struck by lightning or eaten by gators. At least they gave us ponchos

[uofmiami]

30 minutes ago, psv88 said:

My father lives in Naples and had a boat. My sister lives in Davie and also has a boat. Father in law lives in Deerfield also with a boat. 
 

nobody does anything outside in Florida in the summer. It’s horrific and they all come up north for the summer. Their summer is our winter, everyone leaves and those who stay remain inside, especially during the daytime. 
 

yes. You can boat from 9 am to noon generally without storms, but that’s not exactly enjoying a relaxing day on the water. 

You get use to the humidity after a couple of years.  I forced myself to acclimate to it, windows down and no a/c on in my car.  Maybe the older you are the less you can handle it, so you avoid it all costs. I’m not there yet thankfully and my family makes fun of me since my perspective of humid is skewed. 

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, uofmiami said:

You get use to the humidity after a couple of years.  I forced myself to acclimate to it, windows down and no a/c on in my car.  Maybe the older you are the less you can handle it, so you avoid it all costs. I’m not there yet thankfully and my family makes fun of me since my perspective of humid is skewed. 

I would probably have extreme allergies down there, high humidity is an invitation for mold.

 

[jm1220]

48 minutes ago, psv88 said:

My father lives in Naples and had a boat. My sister lives in Davie and also has a boat. Father in law lives in Deerfield also with a boat. 
 

nobody does anything outside in Florida in the summer. It’s horrific and they all come up north for the summer. Their summer is our winter, everyone leaves and those who stay remain inside, especially during the daytime. 
 

yes. You can boat from 9 am to noon generally without storms, but that’s not exactly enjoying a relaxing day on the water. 

Summer is pure torture in the South. In TX where I lived it’s unbearable. 100+ every day and not dry heat. Dry heat is in the western third of the state far from the Gulf. 

[forkyfork]

nothing makes me wish for more climate change like a summer day below 95

[Brian5671]

36 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

nothing makes me wish for more climate change like a summer day below 95

as you sit inside the A/C all day...

[donsutherland1]

On 2/16/2025 at 8:06 AM, donsutherland1 said:

The week ahead: The EPS has a distinct lean toward a snowier outcome in the Lower Mid-Atlantic Region.

Final outcomes:

The ECMWF weeklies did badly with precipitation anomalies and the EPS snowfall forecast was about as bad as it could have been.

[SACRUS]

 

55 here , warmest since 61 on Dec 29th

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

 

55 here , warmest since 61 on Dec 29th

Wait it was 61 in NYC on December 29th? I thought the last time it was 60 was on December 11th?