donsutherland1 Posted Saturday at 05:06 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:06 PM 1 hour ago, EastonSN+ said: 92 93 must have shot down the ranks after that historic March. Makes sense that we have two 1980s Winters in there as this year has mirrored the '80s weather pattern. 1992-1993 fell to 63rd worst winter (and would likely rank as the 64th worst once this winter concludes). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted Saturday at 05:14 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:14 PM 9 hours ago, LibertyBell said: a winter average temperature below 32.0 is what truly constitutes a cold winter.... This could be our first decade without a NYC winter near 32°. Coldest NYC winters of each decade 2020s…..34.8° so far 2010s……31.4° 2000s…..31.2° 1990s……31.1° 1980s…...32.6° 1970s…….28.4° 1960s……29.9° 1950s…...30.8° 1940s…..30.0° 1930s…..28.3° 1920s…..29.9° 1910s……25.7° 1900s…..27.3° 1890s…..28.6° 1880s…..26.5° 1870s…..27.7° 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 05:16 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:16 PM 1 minute ago, bluewave said: This could be our first decade without a NYC winter near 32°. Coldest NYC winters of each decade 2020s…..34.8° so far 2010s……31.4° 2000s…..31.2° 1990s……31.1° 1980s…...32.6° 1970s…….28.4° 1960s……29.9° 1950s…...30.8° 1940s…..30.0° 1930s…..28.3° 1920s…..29.9° 1910s……25.7° 1900s…..27.3° 1890s…..28.6° 1880s…..26.5° 1870s…..27.7° wow this difference from previous decades is really shocking-- this alone speaks more to what should concern us than any snowfall totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted Saturday at 06:04 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:04 PM 59 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: wow this difference from previous decades is really shocking-- this alone speaks more to what should concern us than any snowfall totals. The biggest issue has been that the storm tracks have been too warm for much snow. While NYC generally has needed winter average temperatures near 32.0° for bigger seasons approaching 50” or higher, they have reached 20-30” or more with warmer winters that had cold enough storm tracks. We saw this in 15-16, 16-17, 17-18, and 20-21. So while this winter had near average historical temperatures, the storm tracks were too warm. This lead to the average temperature for the days on which .25 or more of precipitation fell to be 41.5°. This was significantly warmer than the winter average temperature of 34.8°. So this only gave NYC 12.9” of snow. The temperature in 86-87 also averaged 34.8°. But the average temperature on the days that .25 or more of precipitation fell was 37.0°. So the storm tracks were cold enough for 23.1” of snow on the season which was within a few inches of average. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted Sunday at 01:02 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:02 PM On 2/13/2025 at 10:38 PM, SnoSki14 said: Ridge placement looks bad out west. Unfortunately I think the 20th is a southern slider. Parts of Mid Atlantic/SE will end up with more snow than us this winter. Correct On 2/13/2025 at 11:21 PM, Heisy said: This reeks of an nyc-sne special. I’d be excited if I were you guys . If only On 2/13/2025 at 11:24 PM, MJO812 said: The pattern will be the best so far this season. The AO is crashing towards negative 5 and when that happens , get ready. Fail On 2/14/2025 at 12:42 AM, brooklynwx99 said: can’t believe we went four for four tonight I'm still depressed over this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted Sunday at 01:04 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:04 PM 1 minute ago, MJO812 said: Correct If only Fail I'm still depressed over this. dude that was two weeks ago, damn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted Sunday at 01:39 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:39 PM 20 hours ago, LibertyBell said: wow this difference from previous decades is really shocking-- this alone speaks more to what should concern us than any snowfall totals. No coincidence that the 1980s represented the last spike as we are replicating the cold dry warm wet pattern. Only 2.2 higher than the coldest that decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted Monday at 03:18 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:18 AM On 2/23/2025 at 8:20 AM, donsutherland1 said: The week ahead outlook: The final outcome: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Monday at 12:02 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:02 PM 8 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: The final outcome: Interesting, NYC warmer than PHL and JFK likely even warmer than NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LibertyBell Posted Monday at 07:25 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:25 PM Weird that it's considered colder than 2014-15, a winter which was at least 5 degrees colder here. 2014-15 was the best winter we had here in the 10s (it edges 2010-11 because 2010-11 had a lackluster back half.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 18 hours ago, LibertyBell said: Weird that it's considered colder than 2014-15, a winter which was at least 5 degrees colder here. 2014-15 was the best winter we had here in the 10s (it edges 2010-11 because 2010-11 had a lackluster back half.) That's a nationwide map. The exceptional cold from 2014-15 was in the East and there was a lot of warmth in the West. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, donsutherland1 said: That's a nationwide map. The exceptional cold from 2014-15 was in the East and there was a lot of warmth in the West. an el nino Don? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 5 hours ago, LibertyBell said: an el nino Don? Weak El Niño. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 8 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: Weak El Niño. No wonder Boston did the best! If it was a moderate one, we would have (like 2002-03.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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