SACRUS Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Records: Highs: EWR: 63 (1990) NYC: 61 (2023) LGA: 60 (2024) JFK: 60 (2023) Lows: EWR: 8 (1968) - Unofficial record -9 (1899) NYC: -6 (1879) LGA: 4 (1979) JFK: 6 (1979) Historical: 1899 - The temperature at Monterey plunged to 29 degrees below zero, establishing record for the state of Virginia. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders - 1987) 1921 - Gardner, Georgia, was devastated by a massive, estimated F4 tornado that caused an entire small town section to disappear. The tornado killed an estimated 31 people and injured 100. 1921: Gardner, Georgia, was devastated by a massive, estimated F4 tornado that caused an entire small town section to disappear. The tornado killed an estimated 31 people and injured 100. 1959 - St. Louis, Missouri, was hit by a massive F4 tornado that killed 21 and injured 345. Over 2000 buildings were damaged or destroyed, including the St. Louis Arena. 1973 - A major snowstorm struck the southeastern U.S. It produced as much as 18 inches in Georgia, and up to two feet of snow in South Carolina. (David Ludlum) 1978 - As much as eight inches of rain drenched southern California resulting in widespread flooding and mudslides. The heavy rainfall produced a wall of water which ripped through the mountain resort community of Hidden Springs drowning at least thirteen persons. The storm was one of the most destructive of record causing fifty million dollars damage. (David Ludlum) 1981 - A morning tornado at Bay Minette, AL, struck the local middle school severely damaging the gymnasium. 62 people were injured, 44 of whom were students. 1982 - Bismarck, ND, experienced its 45th consecutive day of subzero temperature readings which tied the previous record long string of subzero daily lows ending on the same date in 1937. (David Ludlum) 1987 - A storm in the northeastern U.S. produced heavy snow in southeastern Maine. Grand Falls and Woodland received 15 inches, mainly during the early morning hours, while most of the rest of the state did not even see a flake of snow. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - Bitter cold arctic air gripped the north central U.S. International Falls MN was the cold spot in the nation with a low of 35 degrees below zero. Record warm readings were reported in southern California, with highs of 78 at San Francisco and 88 at Los Angeles. San Juan Capistrano CA was the hot spot in the nation with a high of 92 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) 1989 - For the first time all month winter relaxed its grip on the nation. The temperature at Brownsville TX warmed above 60 degrees for the first time in six days, ending their second longest such cold spell of record. (The National Weather Summary) 1990 - Thunderstorms developing ahead of a cold front continued to produce severe weather across the southeastern U.S. through the morning hours and into the late afternoon. There were a total of twenty-nine tornadoes in twenty-nine hours, and 245 reports of large hail or damaging winds. Pre-dawn thunderstorms produced high winds which injured at least seventy persons in Alabama and Georgia, and caused more than twelve million dollars property damage. A tornado at Austell GA prior to daybreak injured two persons and caused two million dollars damage. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 2010 - A second major snowstorm, dubbed Snoverkill and Snowmaggedon 2.0, further buries the Nation's Capital with 10.8 inches of new snow. Schools, businesses and even parts of the Federal government are shut down by blizzard conditions. The city now has a deeper snowpack, 28 inches, than the 20 inches in Anchorage, AK, or 27 inches in Marquette, MI. 2011 - The coldest day in Oklahoma history sees the temperature plunge to -31°F at Nowata, OK. A US National Weather Service station at Bartlesville recorded a reading of -28°F. Both locations break the previous low temperature mark of -27°F set in 1905 and tied in 1930. The Weather Doctor 2017: An atmospheric phenomena know as "moonbow" was seen in the Seattle area. 2017 - Denver saw their all-time warmest temperature in February with a reading of 79 degrees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Feb 10 2010 NYC 10.1 inches of snow EWR: 13.2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Pushing 2- 3 inches of liquid over the next seven days, a good majority of that now appears to come 2/14-2/16. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago If Central Park somehow goes the rest of the winter without accumulating snow, the average snowfall for the time period of 2018/19 through this year would be 14.52857. The average snowfall for the 30-year period of 1970 through 1999 was 21.90667. a 7.378095 difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 14 minutes ago, SACRUS said: Feb 10 2010 NYC 10.1 inches of snow EWR: 13.2 10" would feel like a HECS today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Just now, SnoSki14 said: 10" would feel like a HECS today Or 1970 through 1999 LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago It could be the rapid SST warming near Japan and acceleration of the Pacific Jet leading to the cutter, hugger, and suppressed Southern Stream tracks since 18-19. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, bluewave said: It could be the rapid SST warming near Japan and acceleration of the Pacific Jet leading to the cutter, hugger, and suppressed Southern Stream tracks since 18-19. Looks like the waters around Indonesia and Australia have leveled off. Could be the start of the cooling trend in those Waters which would help with the mjo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, EastonSN+ said: Looks like the waters around Indonesia and Australia have leveled off. Could be the start of the cooling trend in those Waters which would help with the mjo. Unfortunately, the waters near Indonesia were the warmest on record for January along with east of Japan. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, bluewave said: Unfortunately, the waters near Indonesia were the warmest on record for January along with east of Japan. How is the MJO going into strong 8 with that SST configuration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 2 minutes ago, bluewave said: Unfortunately, the waters near Indonesia were the warmest on record for January along with east of Japan. Still seeing them level off is a good sign. It was always a question of when they would start to cool. We may be in a level off period for a few years beforehand though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 8 minutes ago, qg_omega said: How is the MJO going into strong 8 with that SST configuration? 8 and then 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 5 minutes ago, MJO812 said: 8 and then 1 There is no doubt we're heading into a period where there will be a trough in the east. The overnight ensemble runs had the trough too far East similar to the last blocking episode in January. Hoping the ensembles revert back to the look the previous few days we shall see. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, bluewave said: NYC hasn’t had a normal snowfall season since the 1990s without some portion of the area from EWR to Eastern LI experiencing a KU BM snowstorm with 10”+ totals. So this persistent cutter, hugger, and suppressed Southern Stream storm track is working against normal snowfall seasons. In the colder era before the 90s, NYC could approach 25” inches with out BM KUs during seasons like 73-74, 76-77, 83-84, and 84-85. So these days a major KU snowstorm is the prerequisite for NYC getting near or over 25”. But does it mean that climate change affects NYC more than it does DC or Baltimore in terms of snowfall because NYC is closer to the ocean? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 59 minutes ago, SACRUS said: Feb 10 2010 NYC 10.1 inches of snow EWR: 13.2 this was a rain changed to snow storm very high snowfall rates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 49 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: If Central Park somehow goes the rest of the winter without accumulating snow, the average snowfall for the time period of 2018/19 through this year would be 14.52857. The average snowfall for the 30-year period of 1970 through 1999 was 21.90667. a 7.378095 difference. you have to learn about significant digits, round everything to the nearest tenth lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 34 minutes ago, bluewave said: Unfortunately, the waters near Indonesia were the warmest on record for January along with east of Japan. whats causing all this? Fukushima dumpage of nuclear waste into the Pacific done rather stupidly by Japan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 6 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: But does it mean that climate change affects NYC more than it does DC or Baltimore in terms of snowfall because NYC is closer to the ocean? Ocean City Maryland is right on the water and they're doing great since 2018 and they're literally on the beach LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 19 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: There is no doubt we're heading into a period where there will be a trough in the east. The overnight ensemble runs had the trough too far East similar to the last blocking episode in January. Hoping the ensembles revert back to the look the previous few days we shall see. Unfortunately nature loves to repeat herself as far as weather patterns are concerned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, wishcast_hater said: There is no “normal” just averages - depending on what years you want to count. . Normals and averages can be used interchangeably in describing climate means. From 49-50 to 08-09 NYC averaged 24.4”. But the shift to a record number of BM KUs from 09-10 to 17-18 resulted in the 2010s averaging 37.9”. The lack of BM KUs during the 2020s has dropped the decadal average down to 13.6” through today. So all NYC needs to do is get a few more inches to break even for the 2020s snowfall averages. But needs significantly more to get back to the 60 year average of 24.4” from the 1950s through 2000s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, EastonSN+ said: Ocean City Maryland is right on the water and they're doing great since 2018 and they're literally on the beach LOL. Probably Atlantic City too then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Just now, bluewave said: Normals and averages can be used interchangeably in describing climate means. From 49-50 to 08-09 NYC averaged 24.4”. But the shift to a record number of BM KUs from 09-10 to 17-18 resulted in the 2010s averaging 37.9”. The lack of BM KUs during the 2020s has dropped the decadal average down to 13.6” through today. So all NYC needs to do is get a few more inches to break even for the 2020s snowfall averages. But needs significantly more to get back to the 60 year average of 24.4” from the 1950s through 2000s. Our snowy pattern began in 2002-03, what was our snowfall average from 02-03 through 17-18, Chris? And how many years in that period did we average between 20-30 inches of snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Just now, LibertyBell said: Probably Atlantic City too then. Yeah this is why I don't think the issue is the water temperatures. The heat island effect does come into play for the city itself. I know I sound like a broken record at this point but Cold and dry warm and wet was the theme for 30 years from 1970 to 1999. This is why I'm tracking the average snowfall for that period Against the 2018 till now. As you stated earlier mother nature tends to repeat herself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, SACRUS said: 2000-01 winter had to be fairly close unless you count the Dec 30th as a KU. Multiple KUs that winter with one on 12-30 and another 1-19. https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/rsi/nesis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Might beat last blocking episode 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago the entire arctic is about to be purple and we're tracking a scraper followed by a cutter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, LibertyBell said: whats causing all this? Fukushima dumpage of nuclear waste into the Pacific done rather stupidly by Japan? the ocean circulation naturally piles up warm water in the west pac and the climate is warming 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, forkyfork said: the entire arctic is about to be purple and we're tracking a scraper followed by a cutter Just goes to show how drastically our climate has changed. We'd be talking about a 93/94 mixed with 10/11 pattern right now And idiots still think we're being "alarmist" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, SnoSki14 said: Just goes to show how drastically our climate has changed. We'd be talking about a 93/94 mixed with 10/11 pattern right now And idiots still think we're being "alarmist" The block is just too far north, would not have mattered even back then if it was that far up 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Just now, SnowGoose69 said: The block is just too far north, would not have mattered even back then if it was that far up The scope of arctic air would've been much larger and extended a lot further south. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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