LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 01:57 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:57 PM Just now, MJO812 said: Yep. Hope those return. I don't mind a nice thump before turning to rain. a few times of 4 inches of snow to rain multiple times is how we stack up totals at the coast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted Saturday at 01:59 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:59 PM 1 hour ago, LibertyBell said: How does it compare with 1951-80 or 1961-90, Don? Those are the normals most of us grew up with. Correction, it was 2.5° below normal. 0.6° below normal against both earlier baselines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted Saturday at 02:06 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:06 PM Had the cold air been as extensive as it was 25+ years ago we probably could've had another 94 on our hands this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted Saturday at 02:07 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:07 PM 1 minute ago, SnoSki14 said: Had the cold air been as extensive as it was 25+ years ago we probably could've had another 94 on our hands this month. It’s Feb 1st haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted Saturday at 02:14 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:14 PM Temps in the low teens tonight going to be a roller coaster temp month 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted Saturday at 02:19 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:19 PM 1 hour ago, LibertyBell said: I assume you mean 07-08? Even 07-08 was far better than this winter.... remember late in February we had an SWFE that gave us 6-8 inches of snow (even here on the south shore.) Far better? We we were sitting at 2.9" at this point that winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 02:21 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:21 PM 1 minute ago, Stormlover74 said: Far better? We we were sitting at 2.9" at this point that winter far better in the sense of what happened in February in January we had a heavy snow warning that never panned out. Just a covering of snow in that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted Saturday at 02:22 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:22 PM light snow falling this morning. If you remember 1994 we had a really snowy January and a lot of the news reports were saying that February was gonna be milder with a lot less snow. Obviously, that didn’t happen. But it was funny the same people that canceled winter in 2025 were also busy doing it in 1994. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted Saturday at 02:26 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:26 PM 4 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: light snow falling this morning. If you remember 1994 we had a really snowy January and a lot of the news reports were saying that February was gonna be milder with a lot less snow. Obviously, that didn’t happen. But it was funny the same people that canceled winter in 2025 were also busy doing it in 1994. We were fortunate to get on the right side of the gradient. Philly on south got a fraction of what we got though i think everyone saw something from the 11th storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted Saturday at 02:38 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:38 PM @Allsnow Despite what twitter is telling us/selling us, an SPV split and major SSW is very far from certain: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted Saturday at 02:39 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:39 PM Just now, snowman19 said: @Allsnow Despite what twitter is telling us/selling us, an SPV split and major SSW is very far from certain: Regardless of the impacts The 2nd half of the month is looking colder with a favorable mjo passage and some high latitude blocking developing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted Saturday at 02:44 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:44 PM 15 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Regardless of the impacts The 2nd half of the month is looking colder with a favorable mjo passage and some high latitude blocking developing @Allsnow Edit: That’s a real account. I double checked the CFS/GEFS EXT/CANSIPS/NMME….that’s exactly what those new runs are showing for February. The EPS and GEFS are at odds of what the MJO is going to do. They are actually world’s apart with the MJO. One of them is going to be dead wrong. And the new CANSIPS, CFS, NMME and GEFS EXT show this for February: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted Saturday at 02:46 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:46 PM Just now, snowman19 said: The EPS and GEFS are at odds of what the MJO is going to do. They are actually world’s apart with the MJO. One of them is going to be dead wrong. And the new CANSIPS, CFS, NMME and GEFS EXT show this for February: The GEFS has been awful on it all winter and the last 3 days many of its members have moved pretty heavily towards the EPS idea so my hunch is the EPS is going to win again. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted Saturday at 02:48 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:48 PM Just now, SnowGoose69 said: The GEFS has been awful on it all winter and the last 3 days many of its members have moved pretty heavily towards the EPS idea so my hunch is the EPS is going to win again. Maybe, but the brand new runs of the NMME, CFS and CANSIPS are showing what the GEFS EXT does. All we can do is wait and see 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted Saturday at 02:49 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:49 PM Just now, snowman19 said: Maybe, but the brand new runs of the NMME, CFS and CANSIPS are showing what the GEFS EXT does. All we can do is wait and see Haven't they been torchy the entire winter too? I seem to remember them showing January being like 2002 or 2012 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted Saturday at 02:51 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:51 PM 6 minutes ago, snowman19 said: The EPS and GEFS are at odds of what the MJO is going to do. They are actually world’s apart with the MJO. One of them is going to be dead wrong. And the new CANSIPS, CFS, NMME and GEFS EXT show this for February: Is that a serious account? Seems like a troll bot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Saturday at 02:55 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:55 PM 38 / 20 windy. A bit of back and forth near to above normal the next week, looks wetter than normal. Nice visible loop clouds heading out of the north to south and clearing to almost full sun now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Saturday at 03:01 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:01 PM Records: Highs: EWR: 68 (1989) NYC: 67 (1989) LGA: 66 (1989) JFK: 64 (2012) Lows: EWR: 1 (1935) NYC: -2 (1920) LGA: 3 (1961) JFK: 4 (1961) Historical: 1893 - Thunder and lightning accompanied sleet and snow at Saint Louis MO during the evening hours, even though the temperature was just 13 degrees above zero. (The Weather Channel) 1916: Seattle, Washington, was buried under 21.5 inches of snow, their most significant 24-hour snowfall. A total of 32.5 inches of wet snow accumulated over three days. The Seattle cathedral dome collapsed under the snow's weight. 1947: January 30th through February 8th, a great blizzard occurred in Saskatchewan, Canada. All highways into Regina were blocked. Railway officials declared the worst conditions in Canadian rail history. One train was buried in a snowdrift over a half-mile long and 36.7 feet deep. 1951 - The greatest ice storm of record in the U.S. produced glaze up to four inches thick from Texas to Pennsylvania causing twenty-five deaths, 500 serious injuries, and 100 million dollars damage. Tennessee was hardest hit by the storm. Communications and utilities were interrupted for a week to ten days. (David Ludlum) 1951: An ice and sleet storm began in late January and ended on February 1st rendered many roads impassable. Electricity and telephone service was disrupted. 1951 - The temperature at Taylor Park Dam plunged to 60 degrees below zero, a record for the state of Colorado. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders - 1987) 1955: Seen first as a "well-defined cone-shaped funnel" over the Mississippi River, this F3 tornado cut a path from Commerce Landing to Clark in northeastern Mississippi. This tornado killed 20 and injured at least 141 individuals. Most of the deaths were in a plantation school. The following is from Thomas Grazulis, "Significant Tornadoes 1680-1991" book: "Despite the fact that a funnel was seen, that heavy objects were thrown long distances, and that the tornado was in a forecast box, the event was not officially called a tornado. A survey team state that since all debris was thrown in one direction, the event should not be listed as a tornado." 1985 - Snow, sleet and ice glazed southern Tennessee and northern sections of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama. The winter storm produced up to eleven inches of sleet and ice in Lauderdale County AL, one of the worst storms of record for the state. All streets in Florence AL were closed for the first time of record. (1st-2nd) (The Weather Channel) 1987 - A storm in the Pacific Northwest produced wind gusts to 100 mph at Cape Blanco OR, and up to six inches of rain in the northern coastal mountain ranges. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - Thirty cities in the eastern U.S. reported new record high temperatures for the date, including Richmond VA with a reading of 73 degrees. Thunderstorms in southern Louisiana deluged Basile with 12.34 inches of rain. Arctic cold gripped the north central U.S. Wolf Point MT reported a low of 32 degrees below zero. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1989 - While arctic cold continued to invade the central U.S., fifty-four cities in the south central and eastern U.S. reported new record high temperatures for the date. Russell KS, the hot spot in the nation with a high of 84 degrees the previous day, reported a morning low of 12 above. Tioga ND reported a wind chill reading of 90 degrees below zero. (The National Weather Summary) 1990 - Thunderstorms associated with an upper level weather disturbance produced severe weather across the eastern half of Texas during the late afternoon and evening. Four persons were injured at Waco TX where thunderstorms produced wind gusts to 80 mph. Thunderstorms produced wind gusts to 97 mph at Cotulla TX injuring two other persons. Golf ball size hail was reported at Whitney and northeast of Whitsett. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 2011 - One of the most significant events of the 2010-2011 winter season affected a widespread region from Texas to the Midwest and Northeast from February 1st to 3rd 2011. The system produced widespread heavy snow with blizzard conditions and significant freezing rain and sleet to other locations. Snowfall amounts of 10 to 20 inches were common from northeast Oklahoma to lower Michigan. The storm produced 20.2 inches at Chicago, the third heaviest snowfall in the city since their records began in 1886, along with a peak wind of 61 mph. Kansas City received just under 9 inches of snow. The high temp was 17 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Saturday at 03:05 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:05 PM NYC Feb 1, 1957: 6.4 inches of snowfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted Saturday at 03:09 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:09 PM Received .16" of rainfall for event just ended. Disappointment but it did rid us of the road salt. January total precipitation = 1.03". January snowfall = 8.2" Snowfall season to date = 23.7". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 03:13 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:13 PM 46 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: We were fortunate to get on the right side of the gradient. Philly on south got a fraction of what we got though i think everyone saw something from the 11th storm major impacts from Pinatubo perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Saturday at 03:13 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:13 PM Week ahead heaviest rains into Northern Cal, PNW. Suspect amounts may increase in our area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Saturday at 03:14 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:14 PM Think we ride relatively close to normal , ridging near the SE/EC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 03:15 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:15 PM 14 minutes ago, SACRUS said: Records: Highs: EWR: 68 (1989) NYC: 67 (1989) LGA: 66 (1989) JFK: 64 (2012) Lows: EWR: 1 (1935) NYC: -2 (1920) LGA: 3 (1961) JFK: 4 (1961) Historical: 1893 - Thunder and lightning accompanied sleet and snow at Saint Louis MO during the evening hours, even though the temperature was just 13 degrees above zero. (The Weather Channel) 1916: Seattle, Washington, was buried under 21.5 inches of snow, their most significant 24-hour snowfall. A total of 32.5 inches of wet snow accumulated over three days. The Seattle cathedral dome collapsed under the snow's weight. 1947: January 30th through February 8th, a great blizzard occurred in Saskatchewan, Canada. All highways into Regina were blocked. Railway officials declared the worst conditions in Canadian rail history. One train was buried in a snowdrift over a half-mile long and 36.7 feet deep. 1951 - The greatest ice storm of record in the U.S. produced glaze up to four inches thick from Texas to Pennsylvania causing twenty-five deaths, 500 serious injuries, and 100 million dollars damage. Tennessee was hardest hit by the storm. Communications and utilities were interrupted for a week to ten days. (David Ludlum) 1951: An ice and sleet storm began in late January and ended on February 1st rendered many roads impassable. Electricity and telephone service was disrupted. 1951 - The temperature at Taylor Park Dam plunged to 60 degrees below zero, a record for the state of Colorado. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders - 1987) 1955: Seen first as a "well-defined cone-shaped funnel" over the Mississippi River, this F3 tornado cut a path from Commerce Landing to Clark in northeastern Mississippi. This tornado killed 20 and injured at least 141 individuals. Most of the deaths were in a plantation school. The following is from Thomas Grazulis, "Significant Tornadoes 1680-1991" book: "Despite the fact that a funnel was seen, that heavy objects were thrown long distances, and that the tornado was in a forecast box, the event was not officially called a tornado. A survey team state that since all debris was thrown in one direction, the event should not be listed as a tornado." 1985 - Snow, sleet and ice glazed southern Tennessee and northern sections of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama. The winter storm produced up to eleven inches of sleet and ice in Lauderdale County AL, one of the worst storms of record for the state. All streets in Florence AL were closed for the first time of record. (1st-2nd) (The Weather Channel) 1987 - A storm in the Pacific Northwest produced wind gusts to 100 mph at Cape Blanco OR, and up to six inches of rain in the northern coastal mountain ranges. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - Thirty cities in the eastern U.S. reported new record high temperatures for the date, including Richmond VA with a reading of 73 degrees. Thunderstorms in southern Louisiana deluged Basile with 12.34 inches of rain. Arctic cold gripped the north central U.S. Wolf Point MT reported a low of 32 degrees below zero. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1989 - While arctic cold continued to invade the central U.S., fifty-four cities in the south central and eastern U.S. reported new record high temperatures for the date. Russell KS, the hot spot in the nation with a high of 84 degrees the previous day, reported a morning low of 12 above. Tioga ND reported a wind chill reading of 90 degrees below zero. (The National Weather Summary) 1990 - Thunderstorms associated with an upper level weather disturbance produced severe weather across the eastern half of Texas during the late afternoon and evening. Four persons were injured at Waco TX where thunderstorms produced wind gusts to 80 mph. Thunderstorms produced wind gusts to 97 mph at Cotulla TX injuring two other persons. Golf ball size hail was reported at Whitney and northeast of Whitsett. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 2011 - One of the most significant events of the 2010-2011 winter season affected a widespread region from Texas to the Midwest and Northeast from February 1st to 3rd 2011. The system produced widespread heavy snow with blizzard conditions and significant freezing rain and sleet to other locations. Snowfall amounts of 10 to 20 inches were common from northeast Oklahoma to lower Michigan. The storm produced 20.2 inches at Chicago, the third heaviest snowfall in the city since their records began in 1886, along with a peak wind of 61 mph. Kansas City received just under 9 inches of snow. The high temp was 17 degrees. 1951 - The greatest ice storm of record in the U.S. produced glaze up to four inches thick from Texas to Pennsylvania causing twenty-five deaths, 500 serious injuries, and 100 million dollars damage. Tennessee was hardest hit by the storm. Communications and utilities were interrupted for a week to ten days. (David Ludlum) Was this ice or snow for us, Tony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Saturday at 03:16 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:16 PM More on the 1951 Ice Storm https://www.weather.gov/media/hun/outreach/posters/1951iceposter.pdf 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Saturday at 03:17 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:17 PM 1 minute ago, LibertyBell said: 1951 - The greatest ice storm of record in the U.S. produced glaze up to four inches thick from Texas to Pennsylvania causing twenty-five deaths, 500 serious injuries, and 100 million dollars damage. Tennessee was hardest hit by the storm. Communications and utilities were interrupted for a week to ten days. (David Ludlum) Was this ice or snow for us, Tony? Will need to check this - dont see it being anything signifcant snow wise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted Saturday at 03:17 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:17 PM GFS probably out to lunch on Wednesday, I am still not sold on the 8th-9th either, I think it may be after that where the threats start. At least as far as snow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 03:18 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:18 PM Just now, SACRUS said: check above 6.1 inches of snoww in NYC all snow, no snow to ice for us? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Saturday at 03:18 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:18 PM Just now, LibertyBell said: all snow, no snow to ice for us? :-) Ahh i misread that as 51 but the 6.3 fell on Feb 1 1957, Ill check 1951 storm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Saturday at 03:20 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:20 PM 1 minute ago, LibertyBell said: all snow, no snow to ice for us? :-) Rain in NYC 54 / 28 Feb 1 , 1951 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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