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February 2025 Disco/Obs Thread


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6 minutes ago, Snowcrazed71 said:

Hey listen, I had my melt about 2 weeks ago. I get what you're saying, and there was always that possibility that things could go the other way. There's no way to know for sure. But there's still a lot of positive signs for snow and storms. What form they take, yes that might be up in the air a bit. Point is, you went from being very optimistic to totally pessimistic. Just makes you look like you're losing your mind. 

Take a break like I did for a day. It helped

I look every day and talk about whatever I see. We all know the upside, let’s talk about why people shouldn’t be slapping dongs together and have them wrap around each other like a pretzel.

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21 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

some of these short waves are digging pretty far down and then bouncing north due to the southeast ridge. I can totally see some of those depictions. Are they correct? I don’t know, but completely realistic imo. We’ve had all types of scenarios last few years when everyone was claiming this or that will save us only to find a way for these waves to dig into the plains and create messy scenarios. 
 

Also, these air masses are not arctic. Low 30s for highs with sun? Only thing saving us is high pressure trying to anchor in.

I'm just citing what the numerical teleconnectors are correlating as of recent days.   The -PNA underpinning with a strongly negative NAO over the western limb, does not permit ( typically ) low positions moving through the Lakes.  

But I suspect you're just being euphemistic   lol S/W don't bounce of ridges ... ? 

They are either absorbing into the flow by destructive interference, or being emphasized by the flow due to constructive interference.  This behavior is manifest by S/W attenuation, such as moving the wave space through a compressed medium ( for example...).   Conversely, it may look like a ping ponging but what's really taking place is the S/W is taking pathway that is constructive interfering wrt to where the L/W axis really is anchored.  And this can all be partial too - which becomes a head game of how much so...

I've seen weird interference patterns where the models look to attempt to send S/W against the larger wave space mechanical layout, but where that usually morphs/corrects is the old squeeze play.  Low moves up Michigan and slams to a halt and starts vomiting smaller waves along the east extension, and/or if the primary is BUF ... a Miller B is an option.  

This is all idealized too - I'm sure there are anomalies relative to anomalies, couched in yet bigger anomalies like a Russian Nesting doll of misfortune, too.  

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3 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

I'm just citing what the numerical teleconnectors are correlating as of recent days.   The -PNA underpinning with a strongly negative NAO over the western limb, does not permit ( typically ) low positions moving through the Lakes.  

But I suspect you're just being euphemistic   lol S/W don't bounce of ridges ... ? 

They are either absorbing into the flow by destructive interference, or being emphasized by the flow due to constructive interference.  This behavior is manifest by S/W attenuation, such moving the wave space through a compressed medium ( for example...).   Conversely, it may look like a ping ponging but what's really taking place is the S/W is taking pathway that is constructive interfering wrt to where the L/W axis really is anchored.  

I've seen weird interference patterns where the models look to attempt to send S/W against the larger wave space mechanical layout, but where that usually morphs/corrects is the old squeeze play.  Low moves up Michigan and slams to a halt and starts vomiting smaller waves along the east extension, and/or if the primary is BUF ... a Miller B is an option.  

This is all idealized too - I'm sure there are anomalies relative to anomalies, couched in yet bigger anomalies like a Russian Nesting doll of misfortune, too.  

I’m thinking more of messy systems potential. That is easily supported and I expect at least one or two of those over the next 15 days. Call me crazy for not buying 40” of snow in two weeks. 

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16 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I’m thinking more of messy systems potential. That is easily supported and I expect at least one or two of those over the next 15 days. Call me crazy for not buying 40” of snow in two weeks. 

Oh shit I'm never disagreeing with that in a CC canvas attempting to usurp a fantastic winter stretch:  the collateral damage of that epic war is probably messy systems ... just in principle.

Also a manifestation of the war is the compression that seems to be predominating every base line/winter hemisphere since the 2000s, too - but that's going down rabbit hole.

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14 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I’m thinking more of messy systems potential. That is easily supported and I expect at least one or two of those over the next 15 days. Call me crazy for not buying 40” of snow in two weeks. 

We get it, Nobody thinks you’re crazy. But Nobody is saying anybody is buying 40” in two weeks.  But stop conflating and deflecting.  Your tude this morning was horrible..and all this “Good Luck with that” bullshit.  And “You heard it here first” crap…WTF?  
 

An Op run of the Euro shows a cutter at day 9–10 and you’re off the cuff like a mental patient.  The Op Euro has been a disaster lately. But sure, it could happen.  But experience says that will probably change too. 
 

Modeling/ensembles still looks great…Op runs gonna oscillate.  And not all will be hits for us, we do understand that.  

Moving on..

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1 minute ago, WinterWolf said:

We get it, Nobody thinks you’re crazy. But Nobody is saying anybody is buying 40” in two weeks.  But stop conflating and deflecting.  Your tude this morning was horrible..and all this “Good Luck with that” bullshit.  And “You heard it here first” crap…WTF?  
 

An Op run of the Euro shows a cutter at day 9–10 and you’re off the cuff like a mental patient.  The Op Euro has been a disaster lately. But sure, it could happen.  But experience says that will probably change too. 
 

Modeling/ensembles still looks great…Op runs gonna oscillate.  And not all will be hits for us, we do understand that.  

Moving on..

The ensembles show messiness too. Why is that hard to understand and entertain. It’s totally reasonable and much more realistic than those runs yesterday. 

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1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

This isn’t Kevin behavior. Just interpreting guidance. Why can’t someone raise concern? It’s not like I’m torch tiger pointing out a trough in the plains on the 384 hr gfs op. 

run after run. I'd bet against a full-on hugger/cutter pattern, but not at all ruling out something less than the promised epicosity most latched onto

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