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February 2025 Disco/Obs Thread


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7 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

 Of course we can get slammed in March with a storm but it is difficult to do

I very much disagree with this statement, we have had more than our share in March in SNE... but sure by then you aren't looking to build anything in this area just pad stats (whatever those are :lol:)

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9 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

Exactly...that is the issue, we can't get anything to line up. For those towards the coast and lower elevations...time is a ticking. Sure we're in the climatologically favored period but we need more than that to produce and right now the pipe line does not look encouraging. The tune begins to start changing very quickly in another 3 weeks or so outside of NNE and elevations. Of course we can get slammed in March with a storm but it is difficult to do and we'd then be adding on something exceedingly difficult on top of what already has been difficult. We certainly have some time left but that hourglass is beginning to spit sand a bit more quickly. 

Not 3 weeks Paul..3 weeks brings us to President day weekend..which is mid Feb. that’s a great time around here for snow.  And March can be prolific, and has been in the recent past. But we don’t have any luck this year for sure.  Oh well…let’s see how the next month to 6 weeks play out? 

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2 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Not 3 weeks Paul..3 weeks brings us to President day weekend..which is mid Feb. that’s a great time around here for snow.  And March can be prolific, and has been in the recent past. But we don’t have any luck this year for sure.  Oh well…let’s see how the next month to 6 weeks play out? 

What I mean is in that in another 3 weeks that's when we really start the downhill decent. March can certainly prolific but would you really want to throw your chips in on that happening. I've always felt that if you have to count on March to eliminate the snowfall deficit...chances are you're screwed. 

All I'm saying our window is beginning the slow descent to closing and that descent speeds up in 3 weeks or so. As we move through the first week of February we better want to be seeing favorable looks and not the boring, dead we have since last weeks event. If that is the case...that won't be good. 

Believe me...I am rooting and hoping for it. 

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5 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

What I mean is in that in another 3 weeks that's when we really start the downhill decent. March can certainly prolific but would you really want to throw your chips in on that happening. I've always felt that if you have to count on March to eliminate the snowfall deficit...chances are you're screwed. 

All I'm saying our window is beginning the slow descent to closing and that descent speeds up in 3 weeks or so. As we move through the first week of February we better want to be seeing favorable looks and not the boring, dead we have since last weeks event. If that is the case...that won't be good. 

Believe me...I am rooting and hoping for it. 

Yes for sure.  My point was that there’s still good winter to be had when 3 weeks from now rolls around.  But our timing and fortune has been horrid.  Sometimes that’s  just how it is.   Oh well…if NNE starts getting rocked, that works great for me too…I have more sledding to do this year. 

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2 hours ago, weatherwiz said:

What I mean is in that in another 3 weeks that's when we really start the downhill decent. March can certainly prolific but would you really want to throw your chips in on that happening. I've always felt that if you have to count on March to eliminate the snowfall deficit...chances are you're screwed. 

All I'm saying our window is beginning the slow descent to closing and that descent speeds up in 3 weeks or so. As we move through the first week of February we better want to be seeing favorable looks and not the boring, dead we have since last weeks event. If that is the case...that won't be good. 

Believe me...I am rooting and hoping for it. 

No one asking me and I’m just poking my nose in but … imho, as soon as the hemisphere decides to switch off the EPO cold source, all wintery and/or outlook expectations related to will find themselves surprising wrong while mid latitude continent balms out disproportionately, when more than the climate-based ‘above normal’ takes over. Basically reminds everyone where the world really is

When that happens is your question 

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1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said:

No one asking me and I’m just poking my nose in but … imho, as soon as the hemisphere decides to switch off the EPO cold source, all wintery and/or outlook expectations related to Will fund themselves surprising wrong while mid latitude continent balms out disproportionately more than the climate-based ‘above normal’ reminds everyone where the world really is …

When that happens is your question 

I haven't look ahead as to what the insights are for this ENSO event...which I just checked to see but thus far (at least from the ONI methodology we are not in a defined La Nina...but I have opened my book at using more than just ONI for ENSO bases). Anyways...just give me like 2-3-4 years of neutral ENSO...flush out the atmosphere of all this ENSO induced momentum. We've either been in an EL Nino or La Nina since like 2015 or 2014...with maybe one year defined as neutral and even that was a borderline EL Nino event. 

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Just now, weatherwiz said:

I haven't look ahead as to what the insights are for this ENSO event...which I just checked to see but thus far (at least from the ONI methodology we are not in a defined La Nina...but I have opened my book at using more than just ONI for ENSO bases). Anyways...just give me like 2-3-4 years of neutral ENSO...flush out the atmosphere of all this ENSO induced momentum. We've either been in an EL Nino or La Nina since like 2015 or 2014...with maybe one year defined as neutral and even that was a borderline EL Nino event. 

The ONI distraction ( to me ) is another expose into coupling breakdown 

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