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February 2025 Disco/Obs Thread


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13 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I mean to me it’s just another model. I haven’t noticed at least in this area how it’s done. I feel like lately. It’s been too cold and a little too far offshore with these systems.

It’s has been good picking up trends with systems inside 5 days. 
 

It didn’t do great with the DCA 6+ event a few days ago. I believe it had .10 of precipitation 24 hours before the event. 

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3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

There’s other chances too after next week. Then we’ll see what happens. EPS kills the ridging out west which would spell Morch.

I'm really going to want to turn the page if next week doesn't work....not sure I want any more "chances".....hopefully the pattern flips in March and I can check out.

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2 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

I've waited to blog about this threat, despite the ceiling, for a reason...part of me still feels like I may never need to bother. I'll decide this weekend whether to do a write-off piece, or a preliminary threat assessment type.

One good runs then it shifts se in the next cycle. Typical one step forward two step backwards. I’m very skeptical of the Phase happy solutions. Not trying to be a debbie, just keeping it real until atmospheric confidence increases. 

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1 minute ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

One good runs then it shifts se in the next cycle. Typical one step forward two step backwards. I’m very skeptical of the Phase happy solutions. Not trying to be a debbie, just keeping it real until atmospheric confidence increases. 

I'm not skeptical of the storm....I'm skeptical that we get impacted to a large degree.

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46 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

Don’t worry I’m sure it’s going to cave. But in fairness, everyone has absolutely been in love with that model up until this point lol

Mark me safe from being in love with it! It certainly hasn't been any better than any other guidance we have! Squall in Simsbury at the moment, driveway quickly covered. Buddy says it's a whiteout coming down the hill from Colebrook

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9 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

I can, actually....I have been drawing parallels to 1979-1980 since mid January. That is my futility season and it wasn't warm, either. Awful match in AK, so its not a perfect analog by any stretch, but some similarities in the east.

This plot is not dissimilar to the PNAComposite Plot

Yeah, I know. It’s funny despite this winter looking like winter more than I can recall in sometime, I still have this void. I’m still getting bent over in various ways. 

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1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

There’s other chances too after next week. Then we’ll see what happens. EPS kills the ridging out west which would spell Morch.

the Euro telecon correlations, when then adding attribution ...  is a 70+ F implication by and post Mar 10

the GFS would be too... but it has a subtle sag in the EPO around the 3rd to the 7th... it's not clear if that is really going to be another NE Pac bully or if it fades - we're getting into extended ranges by then that obviously present typically lower confidence.   Other than that one concern, everything else from the GEFs derivates might also imply 70+ F by Mar 10.

just sayn'     not forecasting.   it is what it is.

But, we have to get through a less compressed, +PNA between the 20th and the end of the month, first...

Obviously we have this one on the 20th, which too much time is being spent on individual model's butt bonings and not enough on the fact that the trend was enormous. 

Then the 25th has been all or nothing. Either the given model has a 970 juggernaut, or it's partly sunny on the next run.  So we'll see if that one has legs.  Both are a part of a slowly relaxing compression, whilst the PNA flips mode from neg to positive.  If/when one emerges more likely with the 25th, that one has the most torpid background and thus slower moving/time to develop "in time" plausibility in my mind. 

The 20th is a real storm problem.  It's going to be on the map; the uncertainty isn't whether a storm is real, the sensitivity as far as I'm observing ( fwiw...) is tightly connected to phase proficiency.  Those guidance that suggest more of it, end up more meaningfully impacting/W solutions.  It's really attempting a subsume phase type ( 1978 is a spectacular course work on what that cinema looks like - not saying so as an analog in this case ), but there's still a bit of compression and speed bias lingering - mainly because the western heights are not canonical.  The wave spacing is being lengthened - you can see it how a partial phase in these guidance is then causing the SPV (N/stream vortex part) to spaghettify toward the E... It's like it grabs the S/stream and then gets it's arms ripped off ...

 

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15 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

the Euro telecon correlations, when then adding attribution ...  is a 70+ F implication by and post Mar 10

the GFS would be too... but it has a subtle sag in the EPO around the 3rd to the 7th... it's not clear if that is really going to be another NE Pac bully or if it fades - we're getting into extended ranges by then that obviously present typically lower confidence.   Other than that one concern, everything thing else from the GEFs derivates would also implication for 70+ F by Mar 10.

just sayn'     not forecasting.   it is what it is.

But, we have to get through a less compressed, +PNA between the 20th and the end of the month, first...

Obviously we have this one on the 20th, which too much time is being spent on individual model's butt bonings and not enough on the fact that the trend was enormous. 

Then the 25th has been all or nothing. Either model has a 970 juggernaut, or it's partly sunny on the next run.  So we'll see if that one has legs.  Both are a part of a slowly relaxing compression, whilst the PNA flips mode from neg to positive.  If/when one emerges more likely with the 25th, that one has the most torpid background and thus slower moving/time to develop "in time" plausibility in my mind. 

The 20th is a real storm problem.  It's going to be on the map; the uncertainty isn't whether a storm is real, the sensitivity as far as I'm observing ( fwiw...) is tightly connected to phase proficiency.  Those guidance that suggest more of it, end up more meaningfully impacting/W solutions.  It's really attempting a subsume phase type ( 1978 is a spectacular course work on what that cinema looks like - not saying so as an analog in this case ), but there's still a bit of compression and speed bias lingering - mainly because the western heights are not canonical.  The wave spacing is being lengthened - you can see it how a partial phase in these guidance is then causing the SPV (N/stream vortex part) to spaghettify toward the E... It's like it grabs the S/stream and then gets it's arms ripped off ...

 

This is why there is time being spent on butt-banging solitions because there is a pathway to that, as you have referenced, and this season has seemed to seek out said path at least excuse imaginable.

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