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February 2025 Disco/Obs Thread


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Just now, kdxken said:

Wish they would hold off on moving the clocks ahead a couple more weeks. As an early riser I like the light. It's not like you're going to be sitting out at a pool in the evening.

I hate that part too. I enjoy the morning light.

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13 minutes ago, kdxken said:

Wish they would hold off on moving the clocks ahead a couple more weeks. As an early riser I like the light. It's not like you're going to be sitting out at a pool in the evening.

Yeah I like when we used to change the clocks a couple decades ago. 

I’m sure this will be the last time though as we’ll be getting our 1000th executive order in a few weeks. 

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Just now, tavwtby said:

seriously, I have never liked or understood it, other than to disrupt people's circadian rhythm

I’m okay with it. If you keep it permanent you’re either talking darkness in Jan until 8-830am or you’re getting light out in the summer at 330am. 

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1 hour ago, dendrite said:

Yeah I like when we used to change the clocks a couple decades ago. 

I’m sure this will be the last time though as we’ll be getting our 1000th executive order in a few weeks. 

I am wishy washy on the whole thing, see both sides. I do like 999 of the executive orders though. 

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It's a tough one for me.   I enjoy the gloam light ( Scottish expression...) of summer evenings that lingers on, dying so slowly that energy feels eternal.  Hours I do not wish to be cut short by human convention that satisfies one group in lieu of another.   The sun will set at 7:15 instead of 8:15 ( or so...) if the decision is to go that way. And that is just at the apex of summer; it's really more like setting of 6:55 ( or so...) as the bulk summer average. 

6:55 ?   That's like permanently April.  A month I hate.  F that. 

On the other hand, I see it as a problem for those that have no choice but to spend a couple or hours or 3 prior to sun up in the winter... if the decision is to go the other way. What with kids and/or long commuting, and/or just not having the luxury of a salaried sort of look the other way flexibility of mid or upper echelons occupations...  That's really a large huge demographic.   I work from home in a mid level occupation.  I log in, for the advantages of an internet. No car. No traffic.  I also (sadly) don't have any children.  These circumstances mean I do not have to deal with that which would add stress - such as doing life in the middle of the f'ing night.   Point being, I get it going the other may not work as well for total society.   

I think though, as technology continues to evolve, and proves ever more transformative to the way society functions, some of the factorization of darkness in the morning may get alleviated.  It's not hard to imagine a future where most schooling is done from home period. And ... societal convention of shift work is a human invention, anyway. There's no edict of Natural physical laws that says anyone has to be to work by 7am or else; that humanity's Karenism and/or other control happy BS deciding that.  Usually starts at CEO greed and trickles down as policy.. LOL. 

It may take decades to modulate the machinery of society ... "Technically" we are already species capable of doing that, but as usual ...cultural heritage gets in the way of changes, and so leaps of advancement only seem less possible than they really are... etc.  

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said:

It's a tough one for me.   I enjoy the gloam light ( Scottish expression...) of summer evenings that lingers on, dying so slowly that energy feels eternal.   Hours I do not wish to be cut short by human convention that satisfies one group in lieu of another.   The sun will set at 7:15 instead of 8:15 ( or so...) if the decision is to got that way. Such that at the apex of summer, means it's setting of 6:55 ( or so...) as the bulk summer average. 

6:55 ?   it's like permanently April.  A month I hate.  F that. 

On the other hand, I see it as a problem for those that have no choice but to spend a couple or hours or 3 prior to sun up in the winter... What with kids and/or long commuting, and/or just not having the luxury of a salaried sort of look the other way flexibility of mid or upper echelons occupations...  That's really a large huge demographic.   I work from home in a mid level occupation.  I log in, for the advantages of an internet, no car and traffic.  I also (sadly) don't have any children.  These circumstances mean I do not have to deal with that which would add stress - such as doing life in the middle of the f'ing night.   Point being, I get it going the other way for society.   

I think though, as technology continues to evolve, and proves ever more transformative to the way society functions, some of the factorization of darkness in the morning may get alleviated.  It's not hard to imagine a future where most schooling is done from home period.  It may take decades for that ... "technically" we are already species capable of doing that, but cultural heritage always makes leaps of advancement seem more impossible than they really are... etc.  

 

 

Zoom from home school ruined  a generation of kids psychologically no thanks 

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2 hours ago, Ginx snewx said:

Zoom from home school ruined  a generation of kids psychologically no thanks 

This isn't circumstantially the same phenomenon as "home school"  

the COVID restrictions were a shock that carried with it intangibles that don't occur from home schooling as general, sophisticated practice.  There are a couple families on my block that home school their children, and they have plenty of social outlets and involvements, and are well adjusted.

Jamming kids at home with no actual home schooling taking place, and closing them off to social outlets is conflating apples and oranges.  Different cultural-phenotype entirely.

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