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February 2025 Disco/Obs Thread


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Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Yea. I used to ski several times per winter and do at least one long extended trip to Stowe or Jay, if not out west…before I had kids. Now we’re too busy and the cost has gotten out of hand. It’s no longer a top priority, unfortunately. 

Dude, tell me about it. The prices are absolutely insane. When my son was younger and I was going up all the time we would buy tickets in advance for sometimes under 60 bucks, last time I checked tickets at the window were over 100! My son’s last bball game is this week, so we might try to head up at the end of the month for probably our one and only trip this season. Hopefully conditions warrant it.

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2 minutes ago, Kitz Craver said:

Dude, tell me about it. The prices are absolutely insane. When my son was younger and I was going up all the time we would buy tickets in advance for sometimes under 60 bucks, last time I checked tickets at the window were over 100! My son’s last bball game is this week, so we might try to head up at the end of the month for probably our one and only trip this season. Hopefully conditions warrant it.

It's so stupid. Everyone says get a pass....but then when you factor in life, sports etc,,....who has the time to take advantage of going enough so that it's worth it. Eff up north. Better off sticking local if you can. 

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3 minutes ago, Kitz Craver said:

Dude, tell me about it. The prices are absolutely insane. When my son was younger and I was going up all the time we would buy tickets in advance for sometimes under 60 bucks, last time I checked tickets at the window were over 100! My son’s last bball game is this week, so we might try to head up at the end of the month for probably our one and only trip this season. Hopefully conditions warrant it.

Prices are pretty crazy these days.  This is our first season back to the mountains after ~20 years raising the kids.  Different stages of life.  We're having an absolute blast and it's totally worth it.  Conditions have been stellar lately - well worth it.  Killington yesterday, 100% open, not very busy and awesome riding!

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5 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

I may be a nerve nelly but I wouldn't bother with kid kids.  i've heard too many stories of taking 10 year olds on family ski trips and kid has a 35 mph fight with a chair lift stanchion and of course loses ...Cut to 10 years later, and their wheeling the 20 year old instead of walking the 20 year old down the graduation ramp. 

Meh. Other sports (soccer, football, basketball) have more chances of injuries.  Although yeah, a terrible ski accident happens on occasion.  I’m risk adverse but feel that I am safe in the slopes as are my wife and children (now both adults). 
 

the drive to the mountain is often the most dangerous part.   And for me personally, putting on and taking off my boots in the parking lot is when I tend to get injured :oldman:

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3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

It's so stupid. Everyone says get a pass....but then when you factor in life, sports etc,,....who has the time to take advantage of going enough so that it's worth it. Eff up north. Better off sticking local if you can. 

Even WaWa prices are close to $100 during prime periods.  It’s bad. 

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1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

It's so stupid. Everyone says get a pass....but then when you factor in life, sports etc,,....who has the time to take advantage of going enough so that it's worth it. Eff up north. Better off sticking local if you can. 

Right, if there is natural down here it can be fun. If there is enough natural you can have a great time. Like Sundown has a full top to bottom hidden glade to the left of gun barrel that’s as good as any VT glade, just haven’t had enough natural to get in there in years

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10 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

I may be a nerve nelly but I wouldn't bother with kid kids.  i've heard too many stories of taking 10 year olds on family ski trips and kid has a 35 mph fight with a chair lift stanchion and of course loses ...Cut to, 10 years later, and their wheeling the 20 year old instead of walking the 20 year old down the graduation ramp. 

Damn man...lol. It's not that bad. There are a lot more high risk sports that I'd be worried about over a chair lift accident ( although when I was a teenager, I did have a fight with a chairlift and fell off the side trying to get on, but thankfully I was okay.. just a few laughs and bruises )

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7 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

Meh. Other sports (soccer, football, basketball) have more chances of injuries.  Although yeah, a terrible ski accident happens on occasion.  I’m risk adverse but feel that I am safe in the slopes as are my wife and children (now both adults). 
 

the drive to the mountain is often the most dangerous part.   And for me personally, putting on and taking off my boots in the parking lot is when I tend to get injured :oldman:

Mere "injuries" spins it - one is not as likely to end up paralyzed by a twisted ankle in soccer or basketball.    Football is largely coming around to the dangers of CTE and starting safer practice with better helmet and pad tech at younger ages.  In fact, my buddies with kids have them in touch football leagues and will send them to contact in high school once they are older and bit more controlled - it's becoming more and more the new engagement.  

But gravity and a slope, with a very low coefficient of friction, are universally physical forces that you are allowing the errant - or more likely to be so... - vector of a child's capacity for decision making dictate where to be in space and time, while at velocity. 

To each his or her own,  but meh contains an elided risk.

Also, bear in mind that hate reality and am impugning everything today.  LOL

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Just now, Snowcrazed71 said:

Damn man...lol. It's not that bad. There are a lot more high risk sports that I'd be worried about over a chair lift accident ( although when I was a teenager, I did have a fight with a chairlift and fell off the side trying to get on, but thankfully I was okay.. just a few laughs and bruises )

One of my buddies fell off the Chairlift at Butternut when we were kids. He failed to get his cheeks on the bench as it swung through and he slipped off on the ascend, we were only 6-7 feet up and he was ok. Man we laughed our asses off.

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54 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

easily ...  what's going on around the local hemisphere at the time?  

Without knowing this is meaningless - maybe useful to the imagination, sure.  It needs the surrounding context, though, within which it is entirely guided by. 

That could be receding SE for example, because of a retrograde -NAO ...  take your pick.  It could be dying and was once even stronger - if it were -d() that means it's vertically stacked and not producing much... etc   just sayn'

 

Yea, I touched upon that in a subseuqent post.

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9 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Mere "injuries" spins it - one is not as likely to end up paralyzed by a twisted ankle in soccer or basketball.    Football is largely coming around to the dangers of CTE and starting safer practice with better helmet and pad tech at younger ages.  In fact, my buddies with kids have them in touch football leagues and will send them to contact in high school once they are older and bit more controlled - it's becoming more and more the new engagement.  

But gravity and a slope, with a very low coefficient of friction, are universally physical forces that you are allowing the errant - or more likely to be so... - vector of a child's capacity for decision making dictate where to be in space and time, while at velocity. 

To each his or her own,  but meh contains an elided risk.

Also, bear in mind that hate reality and am impugning everything today.  LOL

My biggest fear in skiing is the "other guy". A 200+lb missile hurtling down the slope in a possibly uncontrolled manner.  I have had many near misses.  I also can't believe how many people still don't wear helmets (not that they are infallible)  

 

On the plus side, I have just finished my 10+th (have lost count) year of running my school's ski club.  Sometimes up to 40 kids.  No serious injuries since I've been the coordinator (not that I have any control over that).

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42 minutes ago, Kitz Craver said:

One of my buddies fell off the Chairlift at Butternut when we were kids. He failed to get his cheeks on the bench as it swung through and he slipped off on the ascend, we were only 6-7 feet up and he was ok. Man we laughed our asses off.

This is shamefully hilarious .. but did you ever see that meme of that chair lift malfunction?   The stage is set ... you see on the left, a chair lift mechanized turn-style tower.  On the right, a pile of squirming arms and legs and ski poles and skies sticking out, struggling to unpile themselves as each addition person swung around the 'style at accelerating g-forces and being thrown into the pile.

It's quite possibly a partial indictment of ethical intelligence to laugh at such a sight.  Usually, I cringe at this sort of thing, but for some reason the thought of these people's mindset for the funnest day or their lives ending up in a contorting messed up state of existential fear that they actually paid to be a part of ?   I don't know - so long as no one actually did die or end up permanently afflicted allows for the irony to fade to some sort of morbid humor

 

 

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1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said:

This is shamefully hilarious .. but did you ever that meme of that chair lift malfunction?   The stage is set ... you see on the left, a chair lift mechanized turn-style tower.  On the right, a pile of squirming arms and legs and ski poles and skies sticking out, struggling to unpile themselves as each addition person swung around the 'style and pretty spectactular g-forces and being thrown into the pile.

It's quite possibly a partial indictment of ethical intelligence and must times I cringe at this sort of thing, but the thought of these people's mindset for the funnest day or their lives ending up in a contorting state of existential fear that they actually paid to be a part of ...  I don't know - so long as no one actually did die or end up permanently afflicted allows for the irony to fade to some sort of morbid humor

 

 

I'm assuming it is the one from... Russia?  It is terrifying

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6 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

I don't see why the 20th will work out with that same dysfunctional look we have had all season....duped just like I was with respect to Jan 11, which failed for the same reason.

That party down in Tijuana is gonna screw this, same as the 11th

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5 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

I don't see why the 20th will work out with that same dysfunctional look we have had all season....duped just like I was with respect to Jan 11, which failed for the same reason.

I know everyone was accusing me of being negative, but how much longer will the same people continue to keep getting shit thrown at their face until they too just admit this season blows. It's been the same thing as we get closer time and time again. Something is there to muck it up. 

 

Yes I have appreciated the snow over the last 5 weeks or so. I really have. But at the same time, all the wasted potential with great airmasses in place start to add up. That is what's going right up my tail pipe. I never thought this is how we would manufacture another frustrating season. 

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3 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

My biggest fear in skiing is the "other guy". A 200+lb missile hurtling down the slope in a possibly uncontrolled manner.  I have had many near misses.  I also can't believe how many people still don't wear helmets (not that they are infallible)  

 

On the plus side, I have just finished my 10+th (have lost count) year of running my school's ski club.  Sometimes up to 40 kids.  No serious injuries since I've been the coordinator (not that I have any control over that).

Yeah, I know what you mean about the 'other' 

I happen to think motorcycles are a lot of fun.  I wish I had more balls ... but, I once happened upon the aftermath of a motorcycle-involved accident down where 62 intersects Starrow Drive.  The bike was charged to dark charcoal gray, as it wrapped around the base of a utility pole.  Yellow tape cordoned off... Just about ever bike rider I've talked to had at one time or the other laid their bike down, and every time it was because some other driver in an SUV somehow didn't see this or that and cut them off too fast this that or the other thing... 

I kind of live my life as much as possible by the motto of, 'I will not die in a parachute accident, because I will never go sky diving'    I try to recognize what I call 'helicopter moments', and avoid getting into the proverbial helicopter - that's a metaphore mind you.  The decades between Buddy Holly and Coby Briant.

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2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I know everyone was accusing me of being negative, but how much longer will the same people continue to keep getting shit thrown at their face until they too just admit this season blows. It's been the same thing as we get closer time and time again. Something is there to muck it up. 

 

Yes I have appreciated the snow over the last 5 weeks or so. I really have. But at the same time, all the wasted potential with great airmasses in place start to add up. That is what's going right up my tail pipe. I never thought this is how we would manufacture another frustrating season. 

And the sad part is we have had decent cold for the majority of the season; storms just haven’t worked out.

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10 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

I'm assuming it is the one from... Russia?  It is terrifying

There may be more than one that is similar, those malfunctions blithely body hucking ... heh.    The one that youtube search has is different from my memory but... I don't exactly go looking for them either.

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4 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Yeah, I know what you mean about the 'other' 

I happen to think motorcycles are a lot of fun.  I wish I had more balls ... but, I once happened upon the aftermath of a motorcycle-involved accident down where 62 intersects Starrow Drive.  The bike was charged to dark charcoal gray, as it wrapped around the base of a utility pole.  Yellow tape cordoned off... Just about ever bike rider I've talked to had at one time or the other laid their bike down, and every time it was because some other driver in an SUV somehow didn't see this or that and cut them off too fast this that or the other thing... 

I kind of live my life as much as possible by the motto of, 'I will not die in a parachute accident, because I will never go sky diving'    I try to recognize what I call 'helicopter moments', and avoid getting into the proverbial helicopter - that's a metaphore mind you.  The decades between Buddy Holly and Coby Briant.

My Sister in law and Her husband were in a horrific Motorcycle accident this past summer. A deer jumped out of the woods and basically onto the bike in an instant. Tragically he passed away and she suffered severe injuries but made it. F motorcycles.

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