Tracking either the biggest storm to affect at a regional scale since perhaps 2013 ... or, a complete whiff. Pick-em'

[ORH_wxman]

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

Dorchester Bay was frozen into early April lol.

I was walking to the seaport every day for work from south station that winter and even Boston harbor was completely frozen until late March. At the peak of it in late February and early March, you couldn’t see open water looking out east. I think it was frozen solid at least 5-6 miles out when we looked at satellite. The of course it was frozen much further than that when you looked at Cape Cod Bay and Nantucket sound. You could prob walk from Ptown to MVY in a straight line that month…right over the bay and across the mid cape and then across the sound. 

[dryslot]

I was going to comment on how potent that northern stream s/w is on the Euro, Looks like it could produce 1-3" up here as a consolation.

[40/70 Benchmark]

9 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

3/5/15 still pisses me off lol. What a greedy asshole I was. But still...that annoyed me.

March shit the bed...I was sure I would catch 1996, but end ended up a 1' behind....got like literally nothing in March.

[Cyclone-68]

I can’t remember the last time March produced anything in my area. It USED to…

[CoastalWx]

Just now, Cyclone-68 said:

I can’t remember the last time March produced anything in my area. It USED to…

Really since 2019. We did have some small events more recently.

[8611Blizz]

The cold in 2015 is still under appreciated.  Consistent ball breaking cold.

[40/70 Benchmark]

Just now, CoastalWx said:

Really since 2019. We did have some small events more recently.

December has been brutal...December 2019 and 2020...that's it...and neither lasted long.

[Cyclone-68]

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

Really since 2019. We did have some small events more recently.

I remember a flash freeze driving home one March that scared the hell out of me..It seemed to snow every March back in the mid 80’s  

[dryslot]

Last year up here got us to 68.6" on the year as those two big storms, Late march on 3/23 was 12.2" and the one on 04/04 that was 16.2", It saved us from one of if not the worse winters.

[wxsniss]

While we're reminiscing...

That 2015 period always reminds me of that made-up term Dwight uses in The Office... "perfektenschlag" for when absolutely everything just goes right.

I flew back from a certain football game played in Glendale AZ... and land to this at Logan:

[Snowcrazed71]

21 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

yeah you're looking at a perfect example of how phasing fails when dx outpaces dy in the geometry of stream interactions

in other words, the s/w are moving too fast    ...it's been a problem in recent years.    

So what we need is Superman to come and spin around the earths orbit about 100 times to slow it down. That should do the trick. 

[ORH_wxman]

14 minutes ago, Cyclone-68 said:

I remember a flash freeze driving home one March that scared the hell out of me..It seemed to snow every March back in the mid 80’s  

1980s had some good march storms. They were pretty awful other months though. 
 

March 2013 through 2019 was a pretty good period. 2014 was annoying because it was like a top 5 coldest March but we couldn’t buy snowfall. NNE cleaned up though that month. 
 

We came close to a historic big dog in March 2023 but that nipple low really killed us in eastern MA. 

[ineedsnow]

41 minutes ago, Cyclone-68 said:

I can’t remember the last time March produced anything in my area. It USED to…

March 2023 

[tamarack]

39 minutes ago, dryslot said:

Last year up here got us to 68.6" on the year as those two big storms, Late march on 3/23 was 12.2" and the one on 04/04 that was 16.2", It saved us from one of if not the worse winters.

We had 40.9" post-equinox.  Even Fort Kent never had that much in any of our 10 springs there.  Storms were 5", 22" and 13.9".  The big dog also dumped 6"+ from 9-10:30 PM, heaviest non-squall rate I've seen.

[WxWatcher007]

1 hour ago, dryslot said:

I was going to comment on how potent that northern stream s/w is on the Euro, Looks like it could produce 1-3" up here as a consolation.

Looking objectively it is a nice look and has trended stronger. That said, it’s on an island. At least with regard to its potency.

[WinterWolf]

2 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Looking objectively it is a nice look and has trended stronger. That said, it’s on an island. 

C’mon… if the euro says so, we better pay attention…especially being it’s only 3 days out.   

[TauntonBlizzard2013]

7 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Looking objectively it is a nice look and has trended stronger. That said, it’s on an island. At least with regard to its potency.

It’s trended better, but I think it’s mostly flakes, maybe someone scores am inch, but I certainly don’t see that being widespread at all

[ariof]

1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

3/5/15 still pisses me off lol. What a greedy asshole I was. But still...that annoyed me.

Was that the anafront that wasn't? IIRC the South Coast got pummeled but it never really made it past TAN.

[HoarfrostHubb]

2 hours ago, OceanStWx said:

I think Sam Lillo reran that pattern and found it was like a 1:1,000,000 chance occurrence for BOS.

Yeah... I recall that.   Sigh... and Sam's maps...

[ariof]

1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

I still get this overwhelming feeling that can't be described when talking or thinking back to that season. I know I will never see that again. 

BOS got more snow that month than any other city of its size (4 million plus), ever, in history. Sapporo gets more but it's smaller.

BOS also had its second-coldest month on record (behind just Feb 1934), second-coldest low max (39, behind 36 in Jan 1875), 43 days below 40 (second place 38), 15 days below freezing (second place, 16, 1961) and 28 days with a low below 20 (second place: 23).

It was basically normal temps for Minneapolis, except with way more snow. It's also when I went walking on the Charles and people were afraid I pointed out that it is basically a lake and Minneapolis spends its entire winter on frozen lakes. (Also, when people said "but combined sewer outfall" I asked when it had rained or melted enough.)

What was even more wild is how easy the melt was. Just a bunch of dry, warm days, very little rain until late March (one earlier storm in the 30s meant the snowpack mostly absorbed it) and no flooding. Just imagine what a warm March rainstorm with 3" of precip would have done! (I remember some worry about this.)

I think the Charles melted out in early April after three solid months. Almost definitely the longest stretch of ice cover.

[WinterWolf]

So in 2015, Boston was in 3 rd place for days below freezing with 15 days? Because 1961 had 16 days below freezing and that was 2nd place?  Am I understanding that correct? Because Thats what you have written down. 

[WxWatcher007]

32 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

C’mon… if the euro says so, we better pay attention…especially being it’s only 3 days out.   

I didn’t say don’t look. Just buyer beware. We literally just had an epic model collapse at medium range…including the Infallible Euro…on the very same threat. 

[ORH_wxman]

13 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

So in 2015, Boston was in 3 rd place for days below freezing with 15 days? Because 1961 had 16 days below freezing and that was 2nd place?  Am I understanding that correct? Because Thats what you have written down. 

That's very hard to do in February. Average highs are well into the low 40s by the end of the month in Boston. So to have over half of the days below 32F for a high is really putting up some cold anomalies.

[weathafella]

26 minutes ago, ariof said:

BOS got more snow that month than any other city of its size (4 million plus), ever, in history. Sapporo gets more but it's smaller.

BOS also had its second-coldest month on record (behind just Feb 1934), second-coldest low max (39, behind 36 in Jan 1875), 43 days below 40 (second place 38), 15 days below freezing (second place, 16, 1961) and 28 days with a low below 20 (second place: 23).

It was basically normal temps for Minneapolis, except with way more snow. It's also when I went walking on the Charles and people were afraid I pointed out that it is basically a lake and Minneapolis spends its entire winter on frozen lakes. (Also, when people said "but combined sewer outfall" I asked when it had rained or melted enough.)

What was even more wild is how easy the melt was. Just a bunch of dry, warm days, very little rain until late March (one earlier storm in the 30s meant the snowpack mostly absorbed it) and no flooding. Just imagine what a warm March rainstorm with 3" of precip would have done! (I remember some worry about this.)

I think the Charles melted out in early April after three solid months. Almost definitely the longest stretch of ice cover.

A city of 4 million?  Boston city is about 700,000.   May be 4m in the entire metro but even that is dwarfed by many.

[Go Kart Mozart]

3 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

That's very hard to do in February. Average highs are well into the low 40s by the end of the month in Boston. So to have over half of the days below 32F for a high is really putting up some cold anomalies.

At the end of the month LI Sound was very close to complete ice cover.

[Cyclone-68]

1 hour ago, ineedsnow said:

March 2023 

It didn’t really amount to much in my region though but maybe I’m wrong 

[WinterWolf]

1 minute ago, Cyclone-68 said:

It didn’t really amount to much in my region though but maybe I’m wrong 

No it didn’t anywhere but where he and Dave are. 

[WinterWolf]

22 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

I didn’t say don’t look. Just buyer beware. We literally just had an epic model collapse at medium range…including the Infallible Euro…on the very same threat. 

Lol, my point was that the euro supposedly just did so well in the medium, now we are questioning it in the short term?  It should nail this at 3 days out easily. 

[WinterWolf]

15 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

That's very hard to do in February. Average highs are well into the low 40s by the end of the month in Boston. So to have over half of the days below 32F for a high is really putting up some cold anomalies.

Oh For sure..I was just asking him if I was reading his post right. 

[ORH_wxman]

NAM def trending signficiantly deeper with the northern stream while dragging the southern vort more....just like it's daddy, the Euro.