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January 10/11 Winter Storm Potential - May the Odds be Ever in our Favor


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5 minutes ago, gman said:

Greenville/Spartanburg an obscure location?

I didn't called obscure. However, the GSP NWS forecast office is insufficient to cover anything east of the Greenville/Spartanburg/Asheville DMA counties in NC for weather forecasting. There's a rather large radar hole that causes a lot of weather forecasting confusion for a lot of people in Metro Charlotte.

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3 minutes ago, Blue Ridge said:

When Asheville and Charlotte WFO duties were merged into Greer, it was a town of <15K. So, yes, an obscure location in comparison to Asheville and/or Charlotte. 

That’s just Greer. The GSP metro area has a population of over 1 million people. Contact your local politician if you have an issue with it. 

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2 minutes ago, Blue Ridge said:

When Asheville and Charlotte WFO duties were merged into Greer, it was a town of <15K. So, yes, an obscure location in comparison to Asheville and/or Charlotte. 

Both cities' NWS radar sites were decommissioned in the 1990s, which contributed to the radar hole/forecasting issues in WNC and Piedmont regions.

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4 minutes ago, lilj4425 said:

That’s just Greer. The GSP metro area has a population of over 1 million people. Contact your local politician if you have an issue with it. 

We did. Former US House Rep. Jeff Jackson reallocated funds in the current federal budget to prioritize getting an NWS radar site near Charlotte to fill the hole over Metro Charlotte, and the western portion of the Piedmont Triad including Winston-Salem and High Point. However, it will only occur when the next round of NWS radar updates occurs, if they do at all.

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Free information for you guys up in NC.  The radar looks robust, but this is a fine drizzle back in Georgia.  No way we get to 3/8" of ZR.  moisture looks good on radar but whats hitting the ground is not impressive at all.

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5 minutes ago, CLTwx said:

Anyone buying? 

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Nope.   In Greenville we have barely had enough accumulation to cover hard surfaces.    All snow has stopped and have light sleet and freezing rain.   Huge bust here but I understand there are several areas nearby that over performed (i.e. Atlanta, Clemson, Abbeville, etc). 

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7 minutes ago, HWY316wx said:

Free information for you guys up in NC.  The radar looks robust, but this is a fine drizzle back in Georgia.  No way we get to 3/8" of ZR.  moisture looks good on radar but whats hitting the ground is not impressive at all.

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Yeah, the moisture content has shifted in the system. It will only produce in areas where there is significant orographic lifting which will force heavier precip. I still anticipate something around 1-2 inches in CLT but it will be over a period of several hours occurring until it abruptly ends overnight.

I think the band of heavier snow totals from northern NC to southeast & central VA might not even occur at all.

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8 minutes ago, kayman said:

Both cities' NWS radar sites were decommissioned in the 1990s, which contributed to the radar hole/forecasting issues in WNC and Piedmont regions.

There was also a Greensboro NWS radar station decommissioned probably about that time. This caused a lot of problems for the area as we've observed more than our share of tornados lately. 

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2 minutes ago, lilj4425 said:

That’s just Greer. The GSP metro area has a population of over 1 million people. Contact your local politician if you have an issue with it. 

My only issue lies with the giant radar hole in WNC, and I routinely remind elected representatives of that fact haha. As for the GSP metro, I love the Upstate - no shade from me whatsoever. However, I do get how GSP seems like an odd fit to be responsible for both Asheville and Charlotte. Ultimately doesn’t mean shite, though, and GSP does a damn good job even with a gaping radar hole in their CWA.


On topic: quickly down to 31°F with a lull in precip. The end of that band looked very drizzly/misty… :yikes:

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6 minutes ago, HWY316wx said:

Free information for you guys up in NC.  The radar looks robust, but this is a fine drizzle back in Georgia.  No way we get to 3/8" of ZR.  moisture looks good on radar but whats hitting the ground is not impressive at all.

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I’ll second that. It looks good but there is no heavy precip falling just a light frz rain/mist. I will be surprised if mby even gets .10” of ice at this rate 

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7 minutes ago, KChuck said:

There was also a Greensboro NWS radar station decommissioned probably about that time. This caused a lot of problems for the area as we've observed more than our share of tornados lately. 

Yep, NC was robbed in the 1990s of much needed NWS weather forecasting offices & radar sites. Instead, placing forecast offices in areas that are need, one was placed in an area sandwiched in area it was not need like Huntsville, AL. N AL and Middle TN only need the Hytop NWS radar site, not an unnecessary NWS forecast office for a barely mid-sized city and region.  I'm an Alabama native so I can shade that place because I know it very well. 

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