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@MillvilleWx We’re having the “Dept of Highways” issue with LWX again- they took away my 9.5” from noon and replaced it with an inaccurately low 9.0” from State Highway (which is right next to me) at 5pm. I just sent in my final 11.6” total so we’ll see if they post it in the next update.
 

I’m seeing a bunch of those measurements in the reports again, wonder how accurate they really are…

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2nd biggest snowfall since moving back to Maryland in August 2016. I believe the bigger totals just to my south in Columbia and Pikesville. Driving into work today at 4am the snow intensity was much greater once I got off 795 and on 29.

 

 

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23 minutes ago, PrinceFrederickWx said:

@MillvilleWx We’re having the “Dept of Highways” issue with LWX again- they took away my 9.5” from noon and replaced it with an inaccurately low 9.0” from State Highway (which is right next to me) at 5pm. I just sent in my final 11.6” total so we’ll see if they post it in the next update.
 

I’m seeing a bunch of those measurements in the reports again, wonder how accurate they really are…

That's annoying. Idk why they would do that. Are you a trained spotter by chance? Typically they would never replace a trained spotter with a Spotter ID. I sent them an email early this morning and I got setup with a Spotter ID since that was not a requirement out in Midland, TX area. It is for LWX, so I reached out and since I'm a NWS Employee, they basically pushed it through without me needing a class (Because I can literally teach the class, and have! lol). So, I obtained a Spotter ID and set a Geolocation. If you don't have the spotter ID, that could be why they don't include it. Dept of Highways is probably deemed more trustworthy (Debatable in my experience), so that would take precedent. Idk why they don't just accept both. Not my call, but I know I would. 

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55 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said:

2nd biggest snowfall since moving back to Maryland in August 2016. I believe the bigger totals just to my south in Columbia and Pikesville. Driving into work today at 4am the snow intensity was much greater once I got off 795 and on 29.

 

 

You and @CAPE always have beautiful house pics in the snow. I love the lights! 

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19 minutes ago, MillvilleWx said:

That's annoying. Idk why they would do that. Are you a trained spotter by chance? Typically they would never replace a trained spotter with a Spotter ID. I sent them an email early this morning and I got setup with a Spotter ID since that was not a requirement out in Midland, TX area. It is for LWX, so I reached out and since I'm a NWS Employee, they basically pushed it through without me needing a class (Because I can literally teach the class, and have! lol). So, I obtained a Spotter ID and set a Geolocation. If you don't have the spotter ID, that could be why they don't include it. Dept of Highways is probably deemed more trustworthy (Debatable in my experience), so that would take precedent. Idk why they don't just accept both. Not my call, but I know I would. 

Yes I’m a trained spotter with an ID, been sending in reports for a decade now. The issue seems to be that I am in the same location as State Highway (1 S Prince Frederick in their metadata) so whomever sends in the latest report overwrites the other. Or at least that’s what I was told. This issue never occurred until last year, when they started using “Dept of Highways” measurements.

In the case of State Highway next to my house, the measurements are always too low and appear to be snow depth (that’s my guess anyway).

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25 minutes ago, PrinceFrederickWx said:

Yes I’m a trained spotter with an ID, been sending in reports for a decade now. The issue seems to be that I am in the same location as State Highway (1 S Prince Frederick in their metadata) so whomever sends in the latest report overwrites the other. Or at least that’s what I was told. This issue never occurred until last year, when they started using “Dept of Highways” measurements.

In the case of State Highway next to my house, the measurements are always too low and appear to be snow depth (that’s my guess anyway).

Ahhh. Gotcha. They might be able to change the Geolocation to somewhere nearby so this doesn't happen. Yeah it wouldn't be exact, but better than getting over-written on an event to event basis. I would contact them and see if that is feasible. I don't think that would be too much trouble. Dept of Highways one isn't going to change, so it would have to be you even if they are the ones that suck (Office Space reference). 

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18 minutes ago, PrinceFrederickWx said:

Yes I’m a trained spotter with an ID, been sending in reports for a decade now. The issue seems to be that I am in the same location as State Highway (1 S Prince Frederick in their metadata) so whomever sends in the latest report overwrites the other. Or at least that’s what I was told. This issue never occurred until last year, when they started using “Dept of Highways” measurements.

In the case of State Highway next to my house, the measurements are always too low and appear to be snow depth (that’s my guess anyway).

We sorta have that same issue here. The CO-OP is the city water filter location, and they are ALWAYS low on snow totals. Today is a classic case, they reported a 3.0. Out of the 7-10 reports sent in within a 15 mile radius of them, they were 2 inches lower than the next lowest measurement. I have 'ratted' them out before, went up and took a pic of their location with snow on the ground (granted, maybe only 1-1.5 inches, I'd reported 1.8 for the day) and sent it in to NWS Blacksburg after they had reported a 0.0. That seemed to help, they were closer for a number of years to other reports, but they may need a reminder again lol. If you look at a snowfall map for VA you can actually see Covington clearly in the contours. 24-36 all around and they are like 8-10. There are years where they report NO snow, 0.0 reported for winters of 95/96 and 96/97!! Only 40.0 reported for 09/10 when others around were in the 60-70 range. Frustrating. *rant off, lol*

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58 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said:

2nd biggest snowfall since moving back to Maryland in August 2016. I believe the bigger totals just to my south in Columbia and Pikesville. Driving into work today at 4am the snow intensity was much greater once I got off 795 and on 29.

 

 

Seeing what some od you actually look like is always interesting to me, lol All of us talk to each other but we only know by username. I'm always curious what folks actually look like!

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With skies beginning to clear out, winds will begin mixing more efficiently to the surface. Blowing snow will be occurring this morning and afternoon before subsiding later. It is truly deep winter in Edgewater with snow blowing off the roofs of houses with locally reduced visibility occurring. Peak climo for snowfall in these parts too, so there is low probability of much melting today outside some very sunny spots. 

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4 hours ago, pazzo83 said:

the snow is REALLY blowing around out there - wouldn't be surprised if we see some ground blizzard conditions tomorrow

It can get pretty crazy over here with blowing and drifting in a situation like this with so many wide open farm fields. Seeing little snow devils spin up in the open areas is cool though.

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6 minutes ago, Paleocene said:

Moco has also skipped my street and neighboring small residential streets thus far. I don't mind (working at home)

Up until the 2010 storms (and really until the 2011 storm), MoCo consistently forgot about my street. They've been worlds better the past few years - sometimes we'll even see a plow before the snow has even stopped and additional ones after. I'm a little surprised we haven't seen one yet with it not being double-digit snow. But I'm guessing it'll be at some point before noon today. With the frigid temps, my guess is they had to exit the subdivisions to spot treat icy spots on the major arteries. 

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9 hours ago, Deck Pic said:

Final 8".  I think snow growth this morning was the main inhibitor to higher totals.  

Yeah, I only tacked on 2.5" from 7am to close yesterday on 0.33" precip.  Not even the later snow helped with the ratios (and I didn't get that much from the ULL pass, certainly not 2").

Final, 7.7" on 0.84" precip.  

The IAD number seems strange, but there is another observer in Sterling Park that has the same 5.1".  When everyone fills in the CoCoRahs reports we'll see if that looks like a bad measurement.

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