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January 5-6 Thing Storm Obs


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5 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

It's probably my fault...because of my location on top of one of the highest points in east central MD right along the PA border I often do disproportionately well in very marginal events, like the 4" I got in November when even places right around me a few miles away barely got an inch!  This probably gives a false sense to the board that this area up here has done better than it has recently in general.  Only the very highest ridges up here have actually done ok, I feel really bad for places just south of me or in some of the valleys up here who have had it really bad recently.  They have not cashed in like me in the marginal temp storms and they have missed all the coastal or slider storms to the south.  The worst screw zone wrt averages in our region, which as a whole hasn't done well recently, has been that area.  

This. It has been an absolute squeeze job, and I'm trying to figure out why. It's like the climo has shifted or something so that we just don't do well enough in these west-east slider like systems...it's like it always favored south of me, and I don't ever remember another time where even I, not being as far north as you, got fringed this much. Ordinarily it's DC with temp/mixing issues...but since 2019 they haven't had that with these types of sytems. I will never trust a system like this again unless it shows mixing south of me. Heavy rates just don't get up here that way lately...smh

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But now that northern MD got fringed @Deck Pic doesn't get to have his trial 

And we should put to bed that "joke" we do get fringed up here a lot, DC has got more snow than this area in a singular event a handful of times just recently!  But it's true we won't get any sympathy because of all the times we get snow when they are just getting rain, and the fact that even in those years by the end of the season most of this area up here will end up with more snow...it just hasn't been as MUCH more as averages would say we should get recently.  But the fringe is real, it actualy does happen, and it is something to worry about up here when guidance has us on the northern edge.  We don't always win out in those situations and recently we've had some fails.  

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4 minutes ago, Chris_B said:

Calling for about 3" from the afternoon blast.  Probably cut that in half realistically.  

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I feel confident that we'll get another 2-3" from round two.  That part is gonna swing through on a near perfect track.  Still a big chunk of the system left: https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/conus_band.php?sat=G16&band=08&length=12

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2 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

This. It has been an absolute squeeze job, and I'm trying to figure out why. It's like the climo has shifted or something so that we just don't do well enough in these west-east slider like systems...it's like it always favored south of me, and I don't ever remember another time where even I, not being as far north as you, got fringed this much. Ordinarily it's DC with temp/mixing issues...but since 2019 they haven't had that with these types of sytems. I will never trust a system like this again unless it shows mixing south of me. Heavy rates just don't get up here that way lately...smh

The adage really is true, you want to ride the mix line a bit and then use your geography to your advantage. When its all snow 50-100 miles south of you, theres the distinct chance you're caught in subsidence or lighter rates.

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2 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

This. It has been an absolute squeeze job, and I'm trying to figure out why. It's like the climo has shifted or something so that we just don't do well enough in these west-east slider like systems...it's like it always favored south of me, and I don't ever remember another time where even I, not being as far north as you, got fringed this much. Ordinarily it's DC with temp/mixing issues...but since 2019 they haven't had that with these types of sytems. I will never trust a system like this again unless it shows mixing south of me. Heavy rates just don't get up here that way lately...smh

The timeframes people are talking about are so small in the overall scale of things that you can't put it down to climate shifting. Sometimes places have shit luck for a period or there's some sort of cycle we're going through. No way to know for sure.

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5 minutes ago, Deck Pic said:

I’ve lucked out in the last 3 big ones. I think I jacked 2019.  But overall I’m at 50% of climo over the 2016-17 to 2023-24 period. It all evens out. But when you get fringed I know it’s painful. 

Not terrible at face value, nice scene of snow falling and over 3" OTG here. Not 6+ but maybe I grab 1-3" this afternoon/evening. 

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4 minutes ago, Ravens94 said:

Nice bands headed into Baltimore and north

Not here in Dundalk. It’s interesting, I’ve been lulled basically since 930. I don’t see anything falling now. So maybe some sketchy things going on with radar truth 

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1 minute ago, Baltimorewx said:

Not here in Dundalk. It’s interesting, I’ve been lulled basically since 930. I don’t see anything falling now. So maybe some sketchy things going on with radar truth 

Don't know what he is talking about. I don't see any bands on radar, either.

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5.5” total

In a lull but looking like we’ll get some of that batch currently impacting clskinsfan’s area. Maybe another 1-2” from the ULL later on if we’re lucky. If we can manage 7-8” here I’d consider that a win. Looking more like 3” at my house in UB per the wife

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All of "northern MD" is mountainous. A mini Switzerland. "Northern MD" extends eastward to just past 1-83 beyond which you are in some other state. DE I assume.

;):lol: (sarcasm..view from the south)

enjoy the snow everyone. Heading out for a stroll!

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14 minutes ago, mattie g said:

The timeframes people are talking about are so small in the overall scale of things that you can't put it down to climate shifting. Sometimes places have shit luck for a period or there's some sort of cycle we're going through. No way to know for sure.

Agree. i mean Richmond just broke a snow drought of 1 plus inch snowfall that lasted over 1000 days yesterday. No one up here can come close to claiming anything like that. 

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6 minutes ago, Baltimorewx said:

Not here in Dundalk. It’s interesting, I’ve been lulled basically since 930. I don’t see anything falling now. So maybe some sketchy things going on with radar truth 

Very fine snow falling currently just to your south over the Patapsco River even though radar isn’t showing anything. 

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5 minutes ago, Kay said:

All of "northern MD" is mountainous. A mini Switzerland. "Northern MD" extends eastward to just past 1-83 beyond which you are in some other state. DE I assume.

;):lol:

enjoy the snow everyone. Heading out for a stroll!

What was your total? Looks like 3.2” here entering the lull.

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