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January 5-6 Thing II: STORM MODE


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33 minutes ago, MillvilleWx said:

Even as a meteorologist, if the HRRR is even close to right for this setup, I will get a custom, "I <3 the HRRR" T-shirt and wear it to work on another set of night shifts. I don't think it'll be right, but this is getting bonkers. 

NAM is getting “bonkers”, too.  May have to add “NAM” to your T-shirt, lol.

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1 minute ago, WVclimo said:

Well there’s one high-res model that supports that HRRR run.

They all kind of support it one way or another. Magnitude wise the Nest matches, RAP matches, the other CAMs are about 80%, but same footprint. I'm starting to wonder myself. I don't think the Nest or HRRR will be right, but even 80% of that is a crazy positive "bust" considering what most are forecasting.

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2 minutes ago, MillvilleWx said:

They all kind of support it one way or another. Magnitude wise the Nest matches, RAP matches, the other CAMs are about 80%, but same footprint. I'm starting to wonder myself. I don't think the Nest or HRRR will be right, but even 80% of that is a crazy positive "bust" considering what most are forecasting.

Looks like a solid 1-3" with the ULL. 

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9 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

I just got home so I figured I would put out a map now that I have access to a computer.  I will probably have to adjust this some tomorrow but this is my thinking right now.  Snowfall1.6.jpg.064d02f7a4145d26baf51d4479ee7a82.jpg

Carroll county under warning for 5-9” up to 10-12” with banding. Right across the pa line im in advisory for 3-5” lol. Good office coordination there. 

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4 minutes ago, TSSN+ said:

Carroll county under warning for 5-9” up to 10-12” with banding. Right across the pa line im in advisory for 3-5” lol. Good office coordination there. 

There will be a sharp cutoff once you get north of where the banding close to the northern periphery sets up...but I think it will be like 20 miles further north that CTP does...which isn't that much of a difference.  NWS thinks that sharp cutoff will be right near the PA line, I think it will be 20 miles into southern PA.  I would include the southern most counties in PA but that's really only a one county difference which is nothing and a noise level error, but of course the people living in that one county don't want to hear that!

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1 minute ago, psuhoffman said:

There will be a sharp cutoff once you get north of where the banding close to the northern periphery sets up...but I think it will be like 20 miles further north that CTP does...which isn't that much of a difference.  NWS thinks that sharp cutoff will be right near the PA line, I think it will be 20 miles into southern PA.  I would include the southern most counties in PA but that's really only a one county difference which is nothing and a noise level error, but of course the people living in that one county don't want to hear that!

True but also weird that the county west of me is in a warning then it’s advisory for a few southern counties than back to warning when it hits mount holly southern counties. But whatever I’ll take my upgrade when it comes 

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4 minutes ago, TSSN+ said:

True but also weird that the county west of me is in a warning then it’s advisory for a few southern counties than back to warning when it hits mount holly southern counties. But whatever I’ll take my upgrade when it comes 

Can't say for sure...but the snowfall contours will probably sag southeast some across PA once east of the mountains due to the confluence increasing to the northeast.  The storm starts to get compressed as it hits the effects of the 50/50.  The odd part is the warnings going back north again near Philly.  Some of that might be counties not following the exact lines they want, and some might be disagreement between CTP and PHI and lack of coordination as you said. 

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Everything looks to be locked in for a forum wide 6-12” event. I for one am not overly concerned about N Maryland, and in fact could see that being a secondary max given better ratios, no mixing concerns, and strong lift. That often happens on the north side of a sharp gradient. The hi-res models coming in wetter and more expansive on the northern edges do not come as a surprise to me.

Regardless, looks like the best storm in years for many and well deserved. Hope you reel it in!

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Just now, Winter Wizard said:

Everything looks to be locked in for a forum wide 6-12” event. I for one am not overly concerned about N Maryland, and in fact could see that being a secondary max given better ratios, no mixing concerns, and strong lift. That often happens on the north side of a sharp gradient. The hi-res models coming in wetter and more expansive on the northern edges do not come as a surprise to me.

Regardless, looks like the best storm in years for many and well deserved. Hope you reel it in!

Thanks for popping by with your insight, we appreciate it. Don’t be a stranger. 

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1 hour ago, LeesburgWx said:

Woke up for a quick check and now trying to go back to sleep will be hard. Euro, HRRR, NAM are straight beat downs. We got HRRR’d and currently being NAM’d. I’m pushing all the chips in. It’s game time!

If this HECS was a blackjack game, the entire sub would bankrupt the casino. 

I am so happy for you guys it isn't even funny. You suffered so bad last winter. You got this storm coming. You're definitely gonna reel this one in. Its going to be frigid for weeks. You are gonnabe digging snow and lots of it! There's another major storm behind this puppy, too. ENJOY! Get out there and savor long ecstatic jebwalks! Break out the stouts!

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