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The January 5/6 Thing


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Just now, jayyy said:


My thoughts exactly. I think Baltimore and points west are still very much in the game for big totals. Even the northern tier is still in it for warning level snow given temps and ratios. Tomorrow will be very telling. If euro continues to tick north and gfs / NAM hold serve, it’s game on

Agree I’d rather be trusting the euro, nam and gfs then the icon and rgem. 

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3 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

I expect it to trend north some the final 24-36 hours. So long as this is where it is now were probably fine. It’s when DC is on the northern fringe 48 hours out that we’re in big trouble. 

You better cross your fingers. The present trend is not your friend.

12z will give the bottom line.

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1 hour ago, nj2va said:

DC still (barely) holding onto snow at 15z Monday.

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Hour 63 is our most vulnerable panel that matters.  This is a "good" run for DC.  Yeah.  there would probably be some mixing.  But looks like 4-7" to me.  No solution is awful for us. They're all acceptable - speaking DC specific.

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11 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

I expect it to trend north some the final 24-36 hours. So long as this is where it is now were probably fine. It’s when DC is on the northern fringe 48 hours out that we’re in big trouble. 

This storm is making us closer to the M/D line really work for this one.

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1 minute ago, stormy said:

You better cross your fingers. The present trend is not your friend.

12z will give the bottom line.

What trend?  We don’t even have the full 0z suite yet. If the euro goes significantly south I’ll worry.  And there are still 5-6 model Cycles left before we get to the range the exact location of banding will be figured out. The last snow we got Feb last winter went from a MD bullseye 48 hours out to giving Allentown PA 12” and MD 1-3”. 

It won’t matter if it were way down south and we needed a 150 mile shift. But a 50-75 mile shift the last 24-36 hours is absolutely nothing and happens almost every storm one way or another.  We do this every time. People act all “how can the models be this all over the place when it’s only 48 or 72 hours” when this is totally normal.  We haven’t progressed as far as some think. 48-72 hours is still a long time.

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5 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

What trend?  We don’t even have the full 0z suite yet. If the euro goes significantly south I’ll worry.  And there are still 5-6 model Cycles left before we get to the range the exact location of banding will be figured out. The last snow we got Feb last winter went from a MD bullseye 48 hours out to giving Allentown PA 12” and MD 1-3”. 

It won’t matter if it were way down south and we needed a 150 mile shift. But a 50-75 mile shift the last 24-36 hours is absolutely nothing and happens almost every storm one way or another.  We do this every time. People act all “how can the models be this all over the place when it’s only 48 or 72 hours” when this is totally normal.  We haven’t progressed as far as some think. 48-72 hours is still a long time.

We have 8, maybe 9, more model cycles after 0z between now and the first flakes fall. We don't need much more qpf with temps, so 6"+ is more than doable unless everything suddenly finds it's way to the terlet.

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