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The January 5/6 Thing


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Just now, clskinsfan said:

Not a whole lot of spread now. The Euro wins again. 

Some models have 10” as far north as almost Harrisburg pa and others have it over Richmond. Theres still plenty of spread and we don’t know if it’s going to shift even more. Seen some ens members of both euro and gfs with hardly a system once it crosses the mountains and gives very little snow to any of us. This storm is a pain.

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6 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

It's starting to feel like Baltimore and north are starting to lose this one...(at least for a warning-level snow anyway)

I expect it to trend north some the final 24-36 hours. So long as this is where it is now were probably fine. It’s when DC is on the northern fringe 48 hours out that we’re in big trouble. 

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1 minute ago, TSSN+ said:

Some models have 10” as far north as almost Harrisburg pa and others have it over Richmond. Theres still plenty of spread and we don’t know if it’s going to shift even more. Seen some ens members of both euro and gfs with hardly a system once it crosses the mountains and gives very little snow to any of us. This storm is a pain.

This is how we winter around here! Whoop!

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Just now, TSSN+ said:

Some models have 10” as far north as almost Harrisburg pa and others have it over Richmond. Theres still plenty of spread and we don’t know if it’s going to shift even more. Seen some ens members of both euro and gfs with hardly a system once it crosses the mountains and gives very little snow to any of us. This storm is a pain.

The spread isn’t that large really.  It’s gonna snow in Maryland and Virginia.  3-6 or 4-8 probably works for most of the area except the edges.  Most storms are like this with the shifting and model disagreement about placement of bands. 

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I expect it to trend north some the final 24-36 hours. So long as this is where it is now were probably fine. It’s when DC is on the northern fringe 48 hours out that we’re in big trouble. 

My thoughts exactly. I think Baltimore and points west are still very much in the game for big totals. Even the northern tier is still in it for warning level snow given temps and ratios. Tomorrow will be very telling. If euro continues to tick north and gfs / NAM hold serve, it’s game on
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Just now, jayyy said:


My thoughts exactly. I think Baltimore and points west are still very much in the game for big totals. Even the northern tier is still in it for warning level snow given temps and ratios. Tomorrow will be very telling. If euro continues to tick north and gfs / NAM hold serve, it’s game on

Agree I’d rather be trusting the euro, nam and gfs then the icon and rgem. 

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8 minutes ago, StormyClearweather said:

Def some drama tonight. ICON isn't really that bad, nor is it very different from 18Z for most of this forum. RGEM isn't great, but it's been bouncy for the past 24 hours and is one model run. 

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That’s bad north of Baltimore. Full stop. 

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3 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

I expect it to trend north some the final 24-36 hours. So long as this is where it is now were probably fine. It’s when DC is on the northern fringe 48 hours out that we’re in big trouble. 

You better cross your fingers. The present trend is not your friend.

12z will give the bottom line.

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11 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

I expect it to trend north some the final 24-36 hours. So long as this is where it is now were probably fine. It’s when DC is on the northern fringe 48 hours out that we’re in big trouble. 

This storm is making us closer to the M/D line really work for this one.

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1 minute ago, stormy said:

You better cross your fingers. The present trend is not your friend.

12z will give the bottom line.

What trend?  We don’t even have the full 0z suite yet. If the euro goes significantly south I’ll worry.  And there are still 5-6 model Cycles left before we get to the range the exact location of banding will be figured out. The last snow we got Feb last winter went from a MD bullseye 48 hours out to giving Allentown PA 12” and MD 1-3”. 

It won’t matter if it were way down south and we needed a 150 mile shift. But a 50-75 mile shift the last 24-36 hours is absolutely nothing and happens almost every storm one way or another.  We do this every time. People act all “how can the models be this all over the place when it’s only 48 or 72 hours” when this is totally normal.  We haven’t progressed as far as some think. 48-72 hours is still a long time.

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