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The January 5/6 Thing


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2 minutes ago, osfan24 said:

I still really like where we are to be very close to ground zero for this. Just let the Euro slowly nudge north and I expect at gametime it will end up a tiny bit north of modeled.

I do too tbh. I’ve been saying 4-8” for our area and I don’t see a reason to change that now. But I think better chance of bumping that to 6-12” than 2-4”.

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5 minutes ago, WxUSAF said:

I said this morning that I figure a diabatically-driven north trend probably starts once the storm has developed. Given the slower trend across all guidance, that might not be until Sunday now. We’ll see.

Small shifts like it just did are fine.  None of us want it to correct to Scranton tho.  Sorry PA people

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Please this is not that serious....it is cold outside, does everyone have a roof and heat tonight on this forum?  That is the stuff to stress about. And this is not banter.  This is not life and death stuff.  It is supposed to be a fun hobby, not make you a nervous wreck.

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Just now, H2O said:

Small shifts like it just did are fine.  None of us want it to correct to Scranton tho.  Sorry PA people

Yeah that’s not happening. Webb still insisting PHL is gonna jack. We’ll see I guess. 

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5 minutes ago, DDweatherman said:

Another thing i noticed is the confluence the NE is definitely a bit lessened on 18z euro h75 vs 12z. low also a bit stronger. I’d sort of expect a bit more north based on those 2 changes. 

To me isn’t this what the gfs and other models showing lobe up north moving further away.  I really have a tough time trusting 18z runs there not called off runs for nothing.  I’ll be patient until 0z to see real lasting changes or trends as I wave good bye to this little pesky storm stage right and get outta the way of the more important storm on Monday. 

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2 minutes ago, Deck Pic said:

I'll see y'all later for the 0z euro, but one quick note for the whiny northerners;)

Based on that run alone, I'd go 6-10" for Manchester - Westminster.  Don't take the precip/snow maps too seriously.  We've been at this too long.  The best secondary banding is going to be north of DC.

That’s what I’m thinking too. Hopefully the southern band will get us and run up the accums before any mixing or dry slot, then add a few more on the backend. 

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Really comes down to who is handling the H5/H7 features better here. GFS opens the upper low later than the EC and as a result has a more coherent WCB and warm nose, which ends up causing p-type issues but makes up for it somewhat with a stronger backside as the H5/7 vort maxes slide just south. The tracks and timing are otherwise basically the same. Either way, there should be some banding along/just left of the mid-level vort maxes.

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5 minutes ago, csnavywx said:

Really comes down to who is handling the H5/H7 features better here. GFS opens the upper low later than the EC and as a result has a more coherent WCB and warm nose, which ends up causing p-type issues but makes up for it somewhat with a stronger backside as the H5/7 vort maxes slide just south. The tracks and timing are otherwise basically the same. Either way, there should be some banding along/just left of the mid-level vort maxes.

Would love to look back on Tuesday and see which one had it right.

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Still putting my jackpot in the general latitude of Leesburg to germantown to Columbia to Easton for now. Will see how things look by tomorrow 0z but I don’t buy the dc south jack quite yet. Euro has been known to lose things 48 out to get them back closer to game time. Can’t shake the general climo aspect to this storm, especially early on in a cold pattern.

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