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The January 5/6 Thing


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Just now, mitchnick said:

It's that lobe north of Maine that is now showing up and sinking south, pushing everything down.

Yeah, I’ve been watching that feature since last night. Lots of moving pieces in that gyre and one might interact with the s/w for better or worse. For now (and this could change) it pushes the wave down and the models are picking up on it. My biggest hope is that it prevents an icy mess along i-66/i-95

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2 minutes ago, North Balti Zen said:

The euro is a real blaring warning signal for us. This would be another galling miss up this way if it unfolds like this. 

honestly, I'd laugh very hard if by Sunday night the storm missed most of the forum and we spent all this time tracking something we don't actually get. 

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16 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

It's that lobe north of Maine that is now showing up and sinking south, pushing everything down.

I see your location is Hanover. I know you messaged me about living in the same town. I hope we don’t totally get screwed haha. Idc if DC gets 12” just give me at least 6” I’d be fine. As long as it snows over 3” I’d be happy. If somehow we get basically nothing that will be so disheartening. 

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30 minutes ago, WxUSAF said:

I think @psuhoffmanis probably doing the “guy peaking out from behind the tree rubbing his hands” gif thing once he sees the overnight runs. I think you’re good. If the max ends up along the VA/NC border, then that’s probably too far.

I think it depends on the next two cycles honestly. I’ve seen this play out so many times. I feel confident the final 48 hours will feature a north trend in the guidance for all the reasons laid out.  The unknown is does it sink south even more before then!  And no one knows, the guidance is ingesting better data on a new feature/variable and trends can reverse at any time.  The north adjustment isn’t as great as it once was so if this sinks any further south at 12 or 18z then the PA line counties are in trouble imo.  If guidance stabilizes where it is right now we’re fine.  We do miss plenty of storms up here that max south of us, but we more than make up for it with storms that max north of DC obviously, but when we are fine is if the qpf max is near DC-Baltimore and our ratios along with orographic enhancement puts us over the top. If the qpf max is south of DC that’s when we do get fringed or missed completely and it happens a lot more than people seem to think, probably because there are way more examples when we get more so who cares in the long run is a very fair view but right now at this moment all anyone cares about is this storm lol. 
 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, aldie 22 said:

Hopefully by tonight's runs we will have an idea how far south or north this thing can go. The envelope has to close and get mailed soon to be delivered by Monday 

Usually in overunning situations like this where we are waiting for the system to actually develop guidance bounces all around. Once this gets going around Oklahoma tomorrow afternoon is when we should finally have some sort of realistic concensus. We are playing the windshield wiper game still with that heavier fronto band and we just can't know N , S , or center yet. 

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7 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

Eps south too. Last 5 mean snowfall from our "best" model. Lol 

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I remember the blizzard in 2016 when the 0z euro shifted south big time like 48hrs out and everyone was cliff jumping and then 12z went back north. Euro has kinda been going back and forth last 2 days shifted north then back south then north and now south again. 

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