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January Medium/Long Range: A snowy January ahead?


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1 hour ago, mitchnick said:

Even with the 6z run hot off the presses showing precip being really increased for Sunday?

That wave strikes me as a 3-6" type thing wherever it ends up.  Maybe slightly more in the jack zone.  Similar to a lot of those boundary waves that popped up at the last minute in 2014 and 2015.  

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53 minutes ago, NorthArlington101 said:

Damn, woke up to 100+ posts and thought something good must’ve happened overnight… which it did, yet all the posts here are kinda bad? lol. 
 

6z EURO and GFS both looked better for Sunday, and the CMC is leading the way with the “big southern storm” that still has a lot of time to get resolved. I know PSU has decided we don’t necessarily want storms to our south at strange, but I’ll take the GFS’s look at day 8.
 

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Looking at incoming pattern that’s coming north pretty confident not really caring about what the models show until 0z Thursday.  I think Euro too extreme with NW push comes southeast and gfs comes NW to meet in the middle and hit for us. 

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2 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

That wave strikes me as a 3-6" type thing wherever it ends up.  Maybe slightly more in the jack zone.  Similar to a lot of those boundary waves that popped up at the last minute in 2014 and 2015.  

Though it's early, this thing has favored our area once there was a consensus of a wave east of the mts (recall the Gfs and maybe others initially had a storm on the front heading for the Lakes.) I "think" it will favor us in the end, but with how much remains the question. But if it doesn't favor us, any place but central VA and SBY. Reminders of the debacle winter of 72/73 cannot be shaken. Lol

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1 hour ago, Terpeast said:

Unlike the last storm, there is nothing to prevent it from trending NW as psu alluded to the other day.

hardly any blocking over greenland, s/w energy hanging back west. That PV is pressing south, but one tiny shift the other way, the track is coming north.

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And you want a proverbial reshuffle? Careful now… you might get a SE ridge with that.

Haha.. I drafted and then deleted almost the exact post this morning. .  I wont be so shy next time.   I also think the position of trough is important also WRT suppression vs Coastal Track.  As depicted above, one would think that a coastal low is definitely favored over a southern/ suppressed track.  However, if you go forward 2 days, the center of the trough moves east by a couple hundred miles and the isobars are more WSW - ENE oriented over our area.  I think that is why dont see a storm on the Euro for the 22nd 00z and a southern track on the GFS .. but as you said, the overall synoptic pattern does not indicate suppression and there are chances the second wave comes north as we move closer to the event.

 

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56 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

Looking way out, I continue to see signs the pattern is not progressing to the typical Nina Feb hellscape I expected.  

Actually...if the 3 features I marked here are correct...that trough will end up more southeast than it is on guidance right now.  

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Love your posts since you add insight and reasoning. Can you elaborate on the above? I think the -EPO will be fighting the SE and western Atlantic Ridge in this setup

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1 hour ago, psuhoffman said:

Looking way out, I continue to see signs the pattern is not progressing to the typical Nina Feb hellscape I expected.  

Actually...if the 3 features I marked here are correct...that trough will end up more southeast than it is on guidance right now.  

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First time I’ve seen blue all season up in the cold spot region. If that holds, 7/8 days later out dominant cold would end 

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