January Medium/Long Range: A snowy January ahead?

[dailylurker]

Just now, Ji said:

1996 seems to get alot more love than Jan 2016 but i thought Jan 2016 was the perfect storm. Almost 40 inches in Leesburg

It was fun but was 63 degrees 48 hours later. That make me vomit. Jan 25, 2000 wasn't the biggest storm I've seen but the intensity of the snow and the darkness that fell across the land during the middle of the day made it wild with 4-5" rates.

[toolsheds]

2 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

That’s my route everyday. That exposed area just south of Hampstead is bad sometimes.

Yes.....about a mile before and a mile after rt. 91

[Interstate]

2 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

2016 was better for NW VA. Crazy deform band that set up there. 1996 was better for my area. On the whole they had similar snowfall distributions but 1996 was colder the week after and included 2 more snowfalls right after so that probably feeds into the nostalgia of that period. 

Wasn't there a 2nd storm a couple of days later that dropped 8 inches or so... and everyone was like it was a dusting?

[HighStakes]

2 minutes ago, Interstate said:

Wasn't there a 2nd storm a couple of days later that dropped 8 inches or so... and everyone was like it was a dusting?

Unpredicted clipper that dropped an additional 2-5 inches on the Tuesday then 6-10 on Friday.

[adelphi_sky]

If WV was a lake, would we get lake effect snows during these cold shots?  Asking for a friend.

[TSSN+]

1 minute ago, adelphi_sky said:

If WV was a lake, would we get lake effect snows during these cold shots?  Asking for a friend.

More so PA, start digging 

[Terpeast]

1 minute ago, HighStakes said:

Unpredicted clipper that dropped an additional 2-5 inches on the Tuesday then 6-10 on Friday.

And school was closed for two full weeks. I thought the area measurements were low but don’t think we were wiping snow boards every 6 hours? I just measured 27-28” snow depth at the end of the storm

[HighStakes]

2 minutes ago, Terpeast said:

And school was closed for two full weeks. I thought the area measurements were low but don’t think we were wiping snow boards every 6 hours? I just measured 27-28” snow depth at the end of the storm

32 in Reisterstown. 30-32 hour storm. Briefly mixed with sleet during a lull Sunday evening then got crushed until early Monday morning. After the Friday SECS/MECS I gad a snow depth between 36-40. Incredible. 

 

[Paleocene]

I was a kid in Central PA for 1996 and I remember absolutely insane snow piles on the streets. They seemed like mountains, as I was 8 at the time. 2003 was similar, as was 2010.

[MN Transplant]

1 hour ago, RDM said:

The coldest I've ever experienced in my 63+ years is -38F - in N. Dakota.  Everyone carried two sets of car keys because they had to leave their cars running when going somewhere or they'd never get them to start again in the cold.  Was normal to see a parking lot full of cars and trucks running while everyone had dinner.  Temperatures that cold do strange things to metal and mechanical machinery.  We were lucky our Beechcraft started again when it was time to depart, after thawing out with a preheater for several hours.  Don't ever care to repeat it. 

Growing up in Ohio,  one year we didn't get above freezing the entire month of Jan. (don't remember the year, think it was Jan 77 when DC got hit hard).  The frost line went down 5 feet that year, which cracked foundations and caused mayhem with water mains.  One of the worse jobs I've ever witnessed was those poor guys down in the bottom of trenches repairing busted water mains in -20+F weather.  They had to thaw the frozen ground with blow torches and slowly skim away the thawed ground with backhoes and jackhammers to reach the busted pipes.  Will never forget the look on their faces...  

In ND there were kids that would let their diesel trucks idle the entire day while at school.  And that might be why we don't have cold days anymore. 

[Terpeast]

4 minutes ago, HighStakes said:

32 in Reisterstown. 30-32 hour storm. Briefly mixed with sleet during a lull Sunday evening then got crushed until early Monday morning. After the Friday SECS/MECS I gad a snow depth between 36-40. Incredible. 

 

I was here for 2016 too but 1996 is king for those reasons. Plus there was that little clipper that dumped 3-5” before the second storm. Had similar snow depths as you did, and it was cold through and through the whole time. Oddly enough, I didn’t see any mixing with sleet during the lull, which only lasted a couple of hours. After the lull it was ripping with legit blizzard conditions. 

[TJ3]

23 minutes ago, HighStakes said:

Unpredicted clipper that dropped an additional 2-5 inches on the Tuesday then 6-10 on Friday.

I always felt during the peak of the clipper it snowed with more intensity than anytime during the main event a few days earlier. 

[BryanInMd]

1 hour ago, Terpeast said:

It went down to -13 at Rochester when I went to college there. I made the stupid mistake of wiping snow off my car handle barehanded. It felt similar to putting my hand on a hot stove. Cold burns are real. Luckily it wasn't full on frostbite.

I went to college in Rochester too, where did you go?  Was a XC and track runner, so spent all winter out in the lake effect 

I moved to moco in Jan or Feb of 95 and we got like 5 or 6 inches of snow the evening I arrived then the next year was the 96 bliz everyone is reminiscing about.  I thought the climo was going to be the same as western NY

[HighStakes]

8 minutes ago, TJ3 said:

I always felt during the peak of the clipper it snowed with more intensity than anytime during the main event a few days earlier. 

From what I recall the clipper in my area go had some inch an hour rates at times where as the blizzard was sustained 1-2 inches per hour. Quite possible that therexwas higher rates with the clipper away from my area. Regardless that week was only second to 2010.

[HighStakes]

19 minutes ago, Terpeast said:

I was here for 2016 too but 1996 is king for those reasons. Plus there was that little clipper that dumped 3-5” before the second storm. Had similar snow depths as you did, and it was cold through and through the whole time. Oddly enough, I didn’t see any mixing with sleet during the lull, which only lasted a couple of hours. After the lull it was ripping with legit blizzard conditions. 

I agree! 1996 was the King.

[notvirga!]

I was still living In Winchester in 2016 and it was more snow there then 96, 2010 or 2003. Feb 83 may have been closer to 2016. I was almost 3 years old for that one and can barely remember it but my dad said it was close to 3 feet of snow also in Frederick county VA. 

[Thewiledcard]

2 hours ago, Lowershoresadness said:

which map shows Kelvin

[clskinsfan]

27 minutes ago, notvirga! said:

I was still living In Winchester in 2016 and it was more snow there then 96, 2010 or 2003. Feb 83 may have been closer to 2016. I was almost 3 years old for that one and can barely remember it but my dad said it was close to 3 feet of snow also in Frederick county VA. 

Definitely the most snow I have ever seen was 2016. 40 inches from a single storm is ridiculous. 2003 is number two for me. And then 83

[wlantry]

2 hours ago, RDM said:

The coldest I've ever experienced in my 63+ years is -38F - in N. Dakota.  Everyone carried two sets of car keys because they had to leave their cars running when going somewhere or they'd never get them to start again in the cold.  Was normal to see a parking lot full of cars and trucks running while everyone had dinner.  Temperatures that cold do strange things to metal and mechanical machinery. 

Dude, that's even worse than mine. I was in Nashville for the blizzard of '93. Picked that week to move from Old Hickory to a place near downtown. March seemed like a pretty safe weather time for a big move.  Rented a big old diesel UHaul for the occasion. 

"Freezing in the dark" took on a new meaning for me. Driving along with a full load, and the diesel fuel turned to jello. There I was, on the side of the road, with a tank full of useless fuel, and no cellphone, of course. I learned way more than I ever wanted to about diesel engines and glowplugs that night.

[mattie g]

I keep coming back to this thread thinking there’s some discussion of the next couple weeks.

I guess not…

[bncho]

2 minutes ago, mattie g said:

I keep coming back to this thread thinking there’s some discussion of the next couple weeks.

I guess not…

January 20 looks good, eh?

[Maestrobjwa]

15 minutes ago, mattie g said:

I keep coming back to this thread thinking there’s some discussion of the next couple weeks.

I guess not…

There's a good discussion a few pages back 

[osfan24]

2016 was great but 1996 was a true blizzard with huge snow drifts and it also was the first storm I really remember tracking. I remember seeing the Blizzard Warnings on Local on the 8’s on TWC and just being glued to the TV. Like others mentioned, the two significant follow-up storms in 1996 also made it special.

I loved the afternoon of 2016 when the deform finally crept a bit east and I was just getting pounded with insane rates and ratios for 3-4 hours. And the appetizer before the storm was pretty cool. Great snow squall.

2009-2010 is obviously super special. 3 blizzards, two of them back-to-back, and there were also numerous storms that lead up to the two February storms that all seemed to overperform. I think the parking lot where I worked still had a tiny bit of snow left from the massive piles they built up into late May/early June.

January 2000 is underrated because of the surprise. I remember kids at school asking me what I thought would happen because I had gotten a reputation as the weather guy. I remember getting home and looking at the radar and being so confused how they kept saying it would miss us and it would go east and out to sea. It looked like it was coming straight at us. And then throughout the evening and night, they just kept increasing forecasted amounts.

[Stormlander]

3 hours ago, RDM said:

The coldest I've ever experienced in my 63+ years is -38F - in N. Dakota.  Everyone carried two sets of car keys because they had to leave their cars running when going somewhere or they'd never get them to start again in the cold.  Was normal to see a parking lot full of cars and trucks running while everyone had dinner.  Temperatures that cold do strange things to metal and mechanical machinery.  We were lucky our Beechcraft started again when it was time to depart, after thawing out with a preheater for several hours.  Don't ever care to repeat it. 

Growing up in Ohio,  one year we didn't get above freezing the entire month of Jan. (don't remember the year, think it was Jan 77 when DC got hit hard).  The frost line went down 5 feet that year, which cracked foundations and caused mayhem with water mains.  One of the worse jobs I've ever witnessed was those poor guys down in the bottom of trenches repairing busted water mains in -20+F weather.  They had to thaw the frozen ground with blow torches and slowly skim away the thawed ground with backhoes and jackhammers to reach the busted pipes.  Will never forget the look on their faces...  

My mom’s from Fargo and likes to tell this story about going out to start her car while on a dinner date in college, and a guy attempted to carjack her. He couldn’t get the car going and kept stalling out, so she calmly knocked on the window and said, “Fella, I take it you aren’t from around here?” And she went on, “the way I see it, two things can happen. We can go to the pay phone and you can call a cab and leave, or, you can keep this up and I can call the police. Which one?” Apparently the guy was so embarrassed he took the cab.

[H2O]

I know there’s a lull right now with storms but can we knock off the trips down memory lane. Take it to banter.  Please

[87storms]

Regardless of whether it snows in the next week or two, local ponds/lakes are getting icy. I’m assuming creeks and rivers are gonna start getting icy as well.

Snow on ice on water soon?

[psuhoffman]

8 minutes ago, H2O said:

I know there’s a lull right now with storms but can we knock off the trips down memory lane. Take it to banter.  Please

I remember the times we had non stop threats to track in this thread. 

[pazzo83]

My two cents - 1996 is still the king.  Then snowmageddon (because of back-to-back huge storms), then 2016.  I'd put 1993 somewhere in there because in the western parts of the region it was an epic, epic blizzard.  I remember barely being able to see past a couple of houses at the height of it.

[Heisy]

Nice hit on the euro Ai for around the 20th @mitchnick


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[psuhoffman]

5 minutes ago, Heisy said:

Nice hit on the euro Ai for around the 20th @mitchnick


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There’s a little wave on the GFS around the 22nd very reminiscent of how we got snow in 2014 2015. Obviously it won’t happen that way but something like that fits the pattern and those discreet waves riding the thermal boundary tend to over perform in the short range.