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January Medium/Long Range: A snowy January ahead?


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Just now, Ralph Wiggum said:

Looks like it is slowly going towards the middle ground models ie icon/cmc. I expect euro eventually heads that way too. 

We can still get a win that way, but it might involve rooting for the NS to just GTF out of the way enough instead of a sloppy phase

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5 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

We can still get a win that way, but it might involve rooting for the NS to just GTF out of the way enough instead of a sloppy phase

The last time you said that that GL low screwed us over in March 2018 and in fact did NOT get out of the way...I remember that post distinctly for some reason, lol I'd rather not have to root for that...because that seems to be a chaotic needle thread that we don't do well.

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3 minutes ago, stormtracker said:

I mean look...is it the moisture bomb we're looking for?  No...it looks to be a 4-7 thang...and I mean...are we really gonna complain if that's our floor?

Nah I'd take that. Ya just hope it's not gonna get worse from here and go to a Euro solution...

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1 minute ago, Maestrobjwa said:

The last time you said that that GL low screwed us over in March 2018 and in fact did NOT get out of the way. I remember that post distinctly for some reason, lol I'd rather not have to root for that...because that seems to be a chaotic needle thread that we don't do well.

it is what it is

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10 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

But Chuck said it was gonna rain so the huge snowstorm for the TN Valley into the Carolinas can't be right

I said the Pacific pattern doesn't look anything like our snowstorm composite.. that could mean anything from the storm being more positive tilted, not happening, to rain, etc. It wasn't a good upper latitude H5. I'm going to get this one right.. we might get some light snow on the front end when -NAO is still in place, but the upper latitude pattern changes too quickly and the core is probably too warm or misses us. 

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This is probably what the potential is with the scenario where the initial NS SW does not phase in and we need the STJ to go it mostly alone

This is pretty much an El Niño storm
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1 minute ago, Stormchaserchuck1 said:

I said the Pacific pattern doesn't look anything like our snowstorm composite.. that could mean anything from the storm being more positive tilted, not happening, to rain, etc. It wasn't a good upper latitude H5. I'm going to get this one right.. we might get some light snow on the front end when -NAO is still in place, but the upper latitude pattern changes too quickly and the core is probably too warm or misses us. 

but if the GFS is right, it'll be "suppressed" (good for me), not flip to rain, which is what you said if I recall correctly

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3 minutes ago, Stormchaserchuck1 said:

I said the Pacific pattern doesn't look anything like our snowstorm composite.. that could mean anything from the storm being more positive tilted, not happening, to rain, etc. It wasn't a good upper latitude H5. I'm going to get this one right.. we might get some light snow on the front end when -NAO is still in place, but the upper latitude pattern changes too quickly and the core is probably too warm or misses us. 

That composite is skewed by a LOT of nino storms...its not as far off if you only look at cold enso non nino snowstorms.  The fact we are not in a nino lowers our chances of a major snowstorm significantly, but often when we do get the fluke cold enso snowstorm they do not match the larger composite.  Also, there is a huge difference IMO between the -PDO regime we've been in recently and the coming look with a full ridge bridge from the NAO all the way into the north pacific, and a trough underneith it towards Hawaii.  It's not nearly as hostile and those other factors around it matter just as much. 

It's not our BEST snowstorm look but we've had snows in worse looks than that.  Its maybe a 7/10 look imo.  I don't think the HECS is likely but I think we have a legit threat at something like the ICON or tonights GFS run spit out. 

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