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January Medium/Long Range: A snowy January ahead?


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Okay new medium/long range thread. Monday threat can stay here for now until sometime tomorrow. 

Please help your fellow weenies by reading more and posting less. Keep model run play by plays clean and informative. Off topic posts belong in banter. Thank you!

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Two things I think will continue to show up is suppression and decreased amounts. Models have not processed much Arctic cold with precip thrown into it for last 15 years. 
Most  of our real cold pushes are really arid . Like 25F and 0 dp when precip is trying to get started. For whatever reason this Mongol air is more like  25/10 and we don’t get 4-6 hours of virga 

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Just now, Terpeast said:

After my daughter goes to bed, I’m going to dig into why the models are diverging. 

But by then I may not have much to add, you all provide great insights so quickly. 

18z Euro has the western edge of the Atlantic gyre moviing further east starting noticeably around 78hrs. Whether that's due to weakening or just pulling east, it's hard to tell. 

Plus it has a 540 closed low over Missouri at 102hrs vs 543 on the 12z.

The results of both are likely the reasons, or at least some of them.

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1 minute ago, RVAman said:

If the northern trend continues as it typically does you might as well be in York for the brunt of it. 

Perhaps you are correct.  Actually it wouldn’t even shock me.  We have lost better outcomes closer in time.  Should look wintry at least.  Unless we lose it all and it’s rain.  Wouldn’t shock me either.  We shall see

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