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Mid to long range discussion- 2025


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8 minutes ago, WarmNoseHater said:

I won’t pretend to be anything other than a casual observer, but after EVERY freaking storm has missed Charlotte due to the NW trend over the last few years, I’m going to be annoyed if there’s no NW trend now that it’s actually cold. 

Central NC (and portions of Charlotte metro area) really have to thread the needle with winter storms...  If it is too warm, then frozen stays to NW.  Too cold and frozen goes to SE.  That's why a lot of folks here will say that you want to be right on the edge of the snow/rain line to get the most.

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I’ll say this, if I was in the bullseye of snow RN with the NW trends on GFS and to an extent Euro at this range, I’d be pretty nervous. Only thing giving me pause for real hope is EPS doesn’t have that many solutions more NW, making it feel like the NW trend might be limited here. GFS, Canadian, and UK isn’t a terrible camp to be in but EPS needs to hop on board or it kinda feels like fools gold. Thankfully there’s still time. Today and tomorrow will be important to see actual trends develop. Model variance isn’t even close to where it was this time yesterday so models are definitely coming into alignment on the general idea of the storm 

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If the Canadian scores a coup here we will need to remember that for future tracking when we have a real Arctic airmass pressing like this one. It feels like that model always wants to create an Arctic airmass out of whatever cold is available and that causes it to always be a cold outlier. Maybe actually working with an Arctic airmass like this one it verifies better. Of all guidance it has by far been the most consistent here. Definitely an interesting development especially after seeing the GFS trend towards it after going far away the last two days. 

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I would say the most positive trend on the GFS is how the shortwave is trending over the last few runs. Definitely sharper and going more neutral, if this continues I would think the angle and moisture transport over the Gulf should become more expansive over the next few runs. 

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4 minutes ago, metalicwx367 said:

EC AIFS. Temps in south Georgia are in mid to upper 20s for entire event. Carolinas in the upper 10s to low 20s. 850s would support mainly snow across North Carolina, South Carolina mixed, and Southern GA all FZRA.

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06z and 00z, couple more moves like that and everyone might be happy.

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