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6 hours ago, ncjoaquin said:

It will be gone at 0z, but I will throw it on here to break the silence.

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5 hours ago, BornAgain13 said:

18z GEFS really bumped up for next Sunday. Probably will be gone by 0z though. 

Not gone at 0Z. Still there and similar:

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4 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said:

The 9-10th period has been on models for a long time but it’s literally a 1.5 day cold shot so there’s no margin for error but yea probably enough of a signal to pay attention to. 

and that is how March rolls around here for sure.

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1 minute ago, olafminesaw said:

EURO and Euro AI feature suppression. Certainly not the Barney cold as needed, to give wiggle room, about as "thread the needle" as a system can be. The only reason it snows on the GFS is it is able to produce it's own cold and draw down the colder air aloft. 

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Honestly that’s how we get most March snow outside the mountains. If 850’s are workable with a dynamic system. Pretty rare to get a non-suppressed storm with an established Barney airmass this late in the year. The system showing up on all models is a fair signal at this timeframe but as stated it’s as thread the needle as you can get even for here. Mountains are definitely in the game. 

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5 minutes ago, olafminesaw said:

EURO and Euro AI feature suppression. Certainly not the Barney cold as needed, to give wiggle room, about as "thread the needle" as a system can be. The only reason it snows on the GFS is it is able to produce it's own cold and draw down the colder air aloft. 

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Yeah, and we know how that usually works out.

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1 hour ago, NorthHillsWx said:

12z GFS way different then the suppressed CMC and EURO and is an amped coastal for New England 

For NC, 12Z GEFS has reverted to mainly a mountain upslope event:

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Compare this to the 18Z GEFS, which had 1-2” in the Triangle/Triad. Now it is only 0.2”-0.3”.

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12Z Euro fwiw has a little snow on Mar 9 outside of the mtns in NW SC/SC NC:

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This is at the far N end of the qpf:

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 It has just a mini-Barney (Barney Rubble?) during a time of year that daddy-Barney may be needed as one of our posters previously sort of put it:IMG_3229.thumb.png.7dbff4e3ca3dc485a8bfe95d50df4b08.png

 

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 The 12Z EPS mean has increased from about nothing to very light snow that is near the 12Z GEFS amounts in NC:

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But the EPS mean temp anom map doesn’t even have a Barney Rubble! Looks more like a Pebbles Flintstone. Good luck with that in March:

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2 hours ago, Clemsonlady said:

I put up all my winter gear over the weekend.. sleds, boots etc!


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Get it back out just in case says the 0Z Goofy!

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A full-fledged Barney is along for the ride this time!

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