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Mid to long range discussion- 2025


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8 minutes ago, tarheelwx said:

IS any of that on the southern edge actually ice?  Or, is there additional ice to the south side of what's shown on the 216 snowfall map above?

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Wouldn't surprise me.  This would be overrunning I believe. 

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1 hour ago, BornAgain13 said:

And then another storm behind that one. Strong CAD and more ICE

Indeed, the 0Z GFS is a big mess! I’m surprised it is quiet in here.

Meanwhile, the 0Z Euro and CMC both have a big ZR in the NW 1/2 of NC 2/11-12.

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2 hours ago, GaWx said:

Indeed, the 0Z GFS is a big mess! I’m surprised it is quiet in here.

Meanwhile, the 0Z Euro and CMC both have a big ZR in the NW 1/2 of NC 2/11-12.

Because no one likes or wants ZR and we all know where this is heading east of 85

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29 minutes ago, suzook said:

06z GFS has shifted things north. Should be an interesting week watching this.

Ensembles actually had accumulating snow a little further south than 00z though. Have to look more at ensembles at this range than single model runs. 00z Canadian Ensembles also has accumulating snow for much of the state.

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12 minutes ago, wncsnow said:

Euro AI still shows a significant winter storm. 

It’s doing that thing again - the thing where it doesn’t move an inch for endless amounts of runs. More indicative of the performance we saw with the early Jan storm. It didn’t nail amounts but it did nail evolution and track.

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Also, optimism should be higher. So many think Feb snow is impossible and I just watched oil rigs in the Gulf get buried not even 2 weeks ago. It’s been a weird winter. Anything is on the table, including 80s this week and snow next. 

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49 minutes ago, BornAgain13 said:

How's the AI Snow Map look today? 

 S end of big snow area has moved quite a bit N since the 2/3 18Z run due to much further N 0C 850 mb line as it gets more in line with other models after being colder than them at that level.

AI 18Z 2/3 run 850s: During heart of the qpf the 0C line as of 0Z on 2/12 then much further S than other models: Gainesville to Anderson to S of Fayetteville to New Bern; GSP/Charlotte/RDU -2, Ash. -4, 

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0Z 2/4 run went sig. further N: GSP/Charlotte +1, Ash -2, RDU -2

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6Z 2/4 run even further N: GSP/Charlotte +2, Ash. -1, RDU 0

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Result: S portion of heavy snow area on AI moved much further N 

18Z:

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0Z:

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6Z:

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1 minute ago, GaWx said:

 S end of big snow area has moved quite a bit N since the 2/3 18Z run due to much further N 0C 850 mb line as it gets more in line with other models after being colder than them at that level.

AI 18Z 2/3 run 850s: During heart of the qpf the 0C line as of 0Z on 2/12 then much further S than other models: Gainesville to Anderson to S if Fayetteville to New Bern; GSP/Charlotte/RDU -2, Ash. -4, 

IMG_2769.thumb.png.f6ec8bd7096a57d13cea6ee64fe82da8.png
 

0Z 2/4 run went sig. further N: GSP/Charlotte +1, Ash -2, RDU -2

IMG_2771.thumb.png.7fa3d7622764d62aec040d70a2d876b0.png


6Z 2/4 run even further N: GSP/Charlotte +2, Ash. -1, RDU 0

IMG_2768.thumb.png.e1130171ad3f5dda1dc30598b0637933.png
 

Result: S portion of heavy snow area on AI moved much further N 

18Z:

 

 

 

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That's still a significant storm although further north.

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