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Mid to long range discussion- 2025


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5 minutes ago, RockyKnob said:

The December 2022 storm was like that for Central NC. No power for 8 days outside Chapel Hill, where we lived on a well (ie, no water). I have a whole house generator now because of that experience. 

I remember waking up to the sound of trees cracking and transformers blowing. That (5 days) and hurricane Fran (8 days) were the longest we were ever without power

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Trends over the last 24 hours have been for the cold to be out ahead of the precip rather than being aligned together.  The result is far fewer, if any, models showing a major cad storm.  Some still show some ice in the mountains and prime cad region, but no longer a major storm.  The ingredients are still there, just not quite lining up like a couple of models showed a couple of days ago.  Still need to watch this one as I'd expect models to begin to converge on a general outcome by early next week.  

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14 minutes ago, tarheelwx said:

Trends over the last 24 hours have been for the cold to be out ahead of the precip rather than being aligned together.  The result is far fewer, if any, models showing a major cad storm.  Some still show some ice in the mountains and prime cad region, but no longer a major storm.  The ingredients are still there, just not quite lining up like a couple of models showed a couple of days ago.  Still need to watch this one as I'd expect models to begin to converge on a general outcome by early next week.  

TW

Yeah was just looking at ensembles, on both GFS and Euro have cold enough air possible on Friday/Sat timeframe with moisture close by. Wedge seems to break down by Sunday as bulk of moisture moves in. I think you definitely hit the nail on the head, it's always about timing and this looks to be a shot where the cold is retreating as moisture moves in. Something to keep an eye on, but I would say the chances have probably decreased for significant ice. 

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3 minutes ago, Met1985 said:

I don't think so. Euro did not scream torch.  The AO is currently positive and the gulf coast just got a foot of snow...

Other than next weekend, there's really nothing positive in the models or indicies right now. I think @wncsnowis right, we likely punt until at least Valentine's day. Heck, we're talking 60s next week!

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2 minutes ago, WNC_Fort said:

Other than next weekend, there's really nothing positive in the models or indicies right now. I think @wncsnowis right, we likely punt until at least Valentine's day. Heck, we're talking 60s next week!

Yeah from looking at better chances it looks like maybe the second week in February before we another shuffle but the Euro showed a pretty normal pattern setting up. Some highs and lows. We've basically been well below normal the entire month of January. 

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1 hour ago, WNC_Fort said:

Other than next weekend, there's really nothing positive in the models or indicies right now. I think @wncsnowis right, we likely punt until at least Valentine's day. Heck, we're talking 60s next week!

Punting to V Day likely means it’s almost over for those east of 85 outside of a very anomalous situation

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