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Mid to long range discussion- 2025


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Things are looking up this morning. GFS finally trends NW and gets a good storm for more folks. UK still has a good storm, and the Canadian isn't wavering and still has a monster storm. Maybe we'll get the Euro on board sometime in the next couple of days.

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  On 1/17/2025 at 2:19 PM, wncsnow said:

Until the Euro and EPS start trending I would use a lot of caution

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I predict they get on board soon. As per usual, the mid/long range outlook on the extreme cold (and heat in the summer) is moderating out thus the base of the trough not digging as far south as earlier modeled.

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  On 1/17/2025 at 2:25 PM, Thrasher Fan said:

I predict they get on board soon. As per usual, the mid/long range outlook on the extreme cold (and heat in the summer) is moderating out thus the base of the trough not digging as far south as earlier modeled.

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It will still be extremely cold.  Just not extremely extreme.

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I would like to see the Euro climb on board, but seeing the trends with it and the AI version give me some comfort. The AI version is a bit later in getting the system into the east, which actually helps interior sections as it allows the PV over Canada to swing out a bit and relax. 

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  On 1/17/2025 at 2:18 PM, NorthHillsWx said:

If Raleigh got 0.8” of precip with those temps…. happy happy happy

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I don't think this would be a 10:1 ratio though.  The air is going to be very cold and dry. Like where I live, 0.4" would be 4" of snow at 10:1.  A 5:1 would be 2".  I know everyone knows this...just a thought. But yes, at this point, 0.8" would be a nice surprise. 1.6" translated to snow in Charleston would shut that place down.

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  On 1/17/2025 at 3:28 PM, Tony Sisk said:

I don't think this would be a 10:1 ratio though.  The air is going to be very cold and dry. Like where I live, 0.4" would be 4" of snow at 10:1.  A 5:1 would be 2".  I know everyone knows this...just a thought. But yes, at this point, 0.8" would be a nice surprise. 1.6" translated to snow in Charleston would shut that place down.

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If this materializes, I would expect ratios on the NW fringes to be in the 15 to 20:1 range. 

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