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Mid to long range discussion- 2025


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Things are looking up this morning. GFS finally trends NW and gets a good storm for more folks. UK still has a good storm, and the Canadian isn't wavering and still has a monster storm. Maybe we'll get the Euro on board sometime in the next couple of days.

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4 minutes ago, wncsnow said:

Until the Euro and EPS start trending I would use a lot of caution

I predict they get on board soon. As per usual, the mid/long range outlook on the extreme cold (and heat in the summer) is moderating out thus the base of the trough not digging as far south as earlier modeled.

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1 minute ago, Thrasher Fan said:

I predict they get on board soon. As per usual, the mid/long range outlook on the extreme cold (and heat in the summer) is moderating out thus the base of the trough not digging as far south as earlier modeled.

It will still be extremely cold.  Just not extremely extreme.

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21 minutes ago, BooneWX said:

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I was living in Greenville for that one. Remember watching the sleet and thinking it would switch for hours. It finally did but we wasted 1/2 the storm on sleet. Think we got 4-5” but way less than the 8-10” forecast. Still a great storm and a great winter that way.

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1 minute ago, olafminesaw said:

I believe the ICON verification scores are below most every other major global model TBF

I actually searched for some verification #'s that included the ICON but couldn't locate any. Prob because it sucks.

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I would like to see the Euro climb on board, but seeing the trends with it and the AI version give me some comfort. The AI version is a bit later in getting the system into the east, which actually helps interior sections as it allows the PV over Canada to swing out a bit and relax. 

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1 hour ago, NorthHillsWx said:

If Raleigh got 0.8” of precip with those temps…. happy happy happy

I don't think this would be a 10:1 ratio though.  The air is going to be very cold and dry. Like where I live, 0.4" would be 4" of snow at 10:1.  A 5:1 would be 2".  I know everyone knows this...just a thought. But yes, at this point, 0.8" would be a nice surprise. 1.6" translated to snow in Charleston would shut that place down.

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2 minutes ago, Tony Sisk said:

I don't think this would be a 10:1 ratio though.  The air is going to be very cold and dry. Like where I live, 0.4" would be 4" of snow at 10:1.  A 5:1 would be 2".  I know everyone knows this...just a thought. But yes, at this point, 0.8" would be a nice surprise. 1.6" translated to snow in Charleston would shut that place down.

If this materializes, I would expect ratios on the NW fringes to be in the 15 to 20:1 range. 

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