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January Banter 2025

George BM

By George BM,
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katabatic
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Wanted to get out of the house so drove to Blackwater Falls in Davis. It was spectacular. Easily 18 inches on the ground and not busy at all. We are all likely getting some snow to scratch that itch,

Ellinwood
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Excited to be drawing a snow map again (tomorrow)... almost a year to the day since my last one. Hoping the 4-8" band verifies IMBY.

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Your formative years here haunt us all. 

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1 minute ago, Ellinwood said:

Glad to see the "What is the Mid-Atlantic" debate still alive and well all these years.

There used to be a spin-off forum called Forty South :D I even made some of the graphics for it at the beginning.

Did I see you were going to make a map this weekend?

Hope all is well btw

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5 minutes ago, Ellinwood said:

Glad to see the "What is the Mid-Atlantic" debate still alive and well all these years.

There used to be a spin-off forum called Forty South :D I even made some of the graphics for it at the beginning.

Are we going to be seeing your map?. I miss those like i miss my first girlfriend. 

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4 hours ago, pazzo83 said:

given her professional disposition, hopefully she'll get a good laugh out of it.

not enough coffee yet to appreciate the discussion. 

Also, I don't see the big deal in TSSN posting with us. Hanover is 5 miles north of the MD line. It's not that far off and 'out of our area'. I mean, I'm only 3 miles from the PA line, and I know if I posted in the Central PA forum, they'd welcome me. lol 

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3 minutes ago, mappy said:

not enough coffee yet to appreciate the discussion. 

Also, I don't see the big deal in TSSN posting with us. Hanover is 5 miles north of the MD line. It's not that far off and 'out of our area'. I mean, I'm only 3 miles from the PA line, and I know if I posted in the Central PA forum, they'd welcome me. lol 

It’s so weird. For years losetoa6 posted from there - I just assumed everyone knew Hanover area was part of “our” area. 
 

I mean, our forum encompasses the I-81 spine for godsake - those folks are as different winter weather wise from the Calvert county folks as you can get and we share the same forum - I don’t see why ten miles north of Manchester should be made to feel unwelcome.

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1 minute ago, North Balti Zen said:

It’s so weird. For years losetoa6 posted from there - I just assumed everyone knew Hanover area was part of “our” area. 
 

I mean, our forum encompasses the I-81 spine for godsake - those folks are as different winter weather wise from the Calvert county folks as you can get and we share the same forum - I don’t see why ten miles north of Manchester should be made to feel unwelcome.

it's only an issue because it's snow and who gets what. snow is very much an in my backyard thing and people take that quite seriously. those south do not care about us up north seeing more snow while they mix or rain. thats where the negativity comes from. because people do not complain about TSSN posting when it's summer and we are tracking storms. just snow. 

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@mappy

Moving this here for longer comment so as not to clutter the storm thread -

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honestly, I'd laugh very hard if by Sunday night the storm missed most of the forum and we spent all this time tracking something we don't actually get. 

I think DC area and either side of DC to the east and west is in a great spot in either a "souther" or "norther" scenario. They've been progged around 6 inches at worst in most every run save one. Our area and the area south of DC have varied between "hell yes" and "hell no" from run to run for days. My snow-missing PTSD has kicked in watching the Euro especially for us northerners.

Which is to say, and this is why I moved this to banter, you are entirely correct that snow is an IMBY game and the board shows its teeth in winter storm set-ups. 

I just wanted to pause for a minute because some really good posters on here from the DC area really don't appreciate how long between drinks up this way it has been from a legit flush hit winter storm warning level storm. Six years by my count for my area. We were close to five inches in of the January storm in '24, but I don't think I quite got there at my house. The January 2022 miss was hilariously painful (watching Ji complain for weeks and then get ten or so inches of powder while this area got 1/2 an inch of dust sucked) - so, in any event, "it always comes north" stuff that gets blithely posted tends to rankle. It doesn't. In some set-ups, sure. In others, NOPE. This storm and its modeling shows it is one of those storms that is amenable to the best lift being forced south of northern parts of the forum - and THAT is something which we have seen over and over again for years. And, not just in winter, happened a LOT in the last few springs and summers (just that doesn't get commented on as much).

In any event, as always, hoping for a path to an area-wide win (or at least as much of the area as possible), but seeing "thread the needle" from some of the red taggers with respect to the final pieces harshes my mellow up this way, and the Euro is really piling on the bad vibes. 

Again, I think DC folks and west and east of there are in a great spot in most scenarios. The eye of their needle looks appreciably larger than the eye of the needle for the Chill-area folk or the folk up our way (our best runs are the Chill-area's worst and vice versa). The tension in the posting on model runs is that. So when someone posts "norther" or "souther" doing drive-by PBP it really isn't helpful without calibrating that comment through their area.  

Good luck all, except, really, I mean, good luck to my area especially. We are overdue up here. One of these storms will not get shunted, I hope. Perhaps this one. 

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@mappy

Moving this here for longer comment so as not to clutter the storm thread -

I think DC area and either side of DC to the east and west is in a great spot in either a "souther" or "norther" scenario. They've been progged around 6 inches at worst in most every run save one. Our area and the area south of DC vary between "hell yes" and "hell no" from run to run for days. My snow-missing PTSD has kicked in watching the Euro especially for us northerners.

Which is to say, and this is why I moved this to banter, you are entirely correct that snow is an IMBY game and the board shows its teeth in winter storm set-ups. 

I just wanted to pause for a minute because some really good posters on here from the DC area really don't appreciate how long between drinks up this way it has been from a legit flush hit winter storm warning level storm. Six years by my count for my area. We were close to five inches in of the January storm in '24, but I don't think I quite got there at my house. The January 2022 miss was hilariously painful (watching Ji complain for weeks and then get ten or so inches of powder while this area got 1/2 an inch of dust sucked) - so, in any event, "it always comes north" stuff that gets blithely posted tends to rankle. It doesn't. In some set-ups, sure. In others, NOPE. This storm and its modeling shows it is one of those storms that is amenable to the best lift being forced south of northern parts of the forum - and THAT is something which we have seen over and over again for years. And, not just in winter, happened a LOT in the last few springs and summers (just that doesn't get commented on as much).

In any event, as always, hoping for a path to an area-wide win (or at least as much of the area as possible), but seeing "thread the needle" from some of the red taggers with respect to the final pieces harshes my mellow up this way, and the Euro is really piling on the bad vibes. 

Again, I think DC folks and west and east of there are in a great spot in most scenarios. The eye of their needle looks appreciably larger than the eye of the needle for the Chill-area folk or the folk up our way. The tension in the posting on model runs is that. So when someone posts "norther" or "souther" doing drive-by PBP it really isn't helpful without calibrating that comment through their area.  

Good luck all, except, really, I mean, good luck to my area especially. We are overdue up here. One of these storms will not get shunted, I hope. Perhaps this one. 

Yeah, it's been a few years since it's been a 'good' winter up here and that's just how it is sometimes. This will be my 11th winter in Parkton, and only 4 of them have been >30" winters. And 30" is the average up here. What I do love about the area is we do really well in marginal events and snow sticks around because we are always just a little bit colder. I take the pluses where I can find them. But snow is just a thing people care a lot about. I'm a weenie like everyone else, but I have learned not to let lack of snow, while others are getting some, ruin it all for me. I used to be that way, I used to get annoyed by it. But aging and some horrible life events have given me a different outlook and I try very hard to see a positive for others even if it means that I'm not getting the same. 

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53 minutes ago, WxUSAF said:

I’m leaving some of my outdoor Xmas decorations up specifically because I want to see them in the snow :snowman:

All of the indoor stuff is down, but it was the wife that said leave them up for the snow.

 

she’s a keeper.

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34 minutes ago, mappy said:

it's only an issue because it's snow and who gets what. snow is very much an in my backyard thing and people take that quite seriously. those south do not care about us up north seeing more snow while they mix or rain. thats where the negativity comes from. because people do not complain about TSSN posting when it's summer and we are tracking storms. just snow. 

Haters hate haha 

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Just now, dailylurker said:

When you do that Hanover will get hit lol. 

Congrats VA. I know those guys down there are jumping for joy. I would be. 

Probably not going far. We going to look at places in favored snow climate like emittsburg and anywhere near blue ridge summit lol

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7 minutes ago, TSSN+ said:

Living in Hanover is temporary anyways. Me and my gf up here till our lease is up in October and then it’s back to probably Maryland 

Nice! We love Hanover. We go up there for dinner a lot. Mr Map and Mini-Map go to Cordorus all the time to hike. We did their trick or treating thing in the woods too. Love the area. 

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