January Banter 2025

[WVclimo]

One of those Euro 46-day runs that @Weather Willposts from mid-December nailed the southern snowstorm.  I recall commenting on the record snows it showed from the Gulf coast to the GA and SC coasts.

[midatlanticweather]

9 years ago we had some serious model porn, and it was the best snowstorm of my life!

 

[North Balti Zen]

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Is it too soon to lock down the exact location of a deform?

Never too early. 

Pro tip - two counties away from me, in any direction, depending on the event. 

[pazzo83]

1 hour ago, midatlanticweather said:

9 years ago we had some serious model porn, and it was the best snowstorm of my life!

 

still NYC's greatest 24 hr snowfall (and I remember we (NYC) were slated to miss it to the south until late, and as you can see we almost did!).  I have video of incredible blizzard conditions from Battery Park City (right on the water) from that day.

[Paleocene]

3 hours ago, midatlanticweather said:

9 years ago we had some serious model porn, and it was the best snowstorm of my life!

 

 

I remember getting 40+ inch NAMings in the 72 hour leadup to that storm

[Maestrobjwa]

6 hours ago, midatlanticweather said:

9 years ago we had some serious model porn, and it was the best snowstorm of my life!

 

And not to mention...it was the absolute easiest storm to track ever, lol I mean I remember 7 days of unusual model agreement saying "Yerp, it's gonna snow, gonna snow big". But there was somehow, still hand wringing over whether there would be mixing or not (guilty) and whether it be 18 inches or 24!! So even the easiest track to a big one we were still doing what we do best, lol But yeah, I look at the shovel I use now and I had brought it for that storm...fun times!!

[midatlanticweather]

44 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

And not to mention...it was the absolute easiest storm to track ever, lol I mean I remember 7 days of unusual model agreement saying "Yerp, it's gonna snow, gonna snow big". But there was somehow, still hand wringing over whether there would be mixing or not (guilty) and whether it be 18 inches or 24!! So even the easiest track to a big one we were still doing what we do best, lol But yeah, I look at the shovel I use now and I had brought it for that storm...fun times!!

There was that one south shift on one model run that showed up.. But as you said, it was a difference between 18 inches and 2+ feet. I was in the right place at the right time. Wish we could do it again 

[LordBaltimore]

On 1/18/2025 at 9:04 PM, LordBaltimore said:

you guys are lucky. I've spent the last two days trying to figure out where to put a temperature sensor out in my apartment complex so that it's both valid and not liable to have someone think it's a spycam. 

Whoever took down my temp sensor today is a massive turd

[nj2va]

8 hours ago, Paleocene said:

I remember getting 40+ inch NAMings in the 72 hour leadup to that storm

Pure euphoria those five days leading up to it. 

[MillvilleWx]

8 hours ago, Paleocene said:

I remember getting 40+ inch NAMings in the 72 hour leadup to that storm

 

Just now, nj2va said:

Pure euphoria those five days leading up to it. 

The fact we verified some of the insane totals the models were spitting out for days still blows my mind to this day. It was truly a marvel. 

[mappy]

6 hours ago, ravensrule said:

Because @Stebo is a filthy piece of turd droppings. 

probably best not to comment on things you know maybe 5% about.  

[RevWarReenactor]

 

22 hours ago, psuhoffman said:

You need to know your climo. There are 8 pretty good analogs in the last 30 years to this season and 7/8 produced good snow for a part of this forum in March!   Forget the analogs just in the last 20 years 2005, 2009, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2022 all produced snow around here in March. 
 

Many missed YOU because you chose to live in a Fckn snow hole that has a low chance of snow even in a good pattern. On top of that you don’t count snow that doesn’t stick to the road lol. 
 

But seriously why does someone who needs snow like you seem too live where you do?  You know if you moved 15 miles NW you’d average 10” more a year. 25 miles and you’d double your average!  Stop complaining about the realities of your climo and do something. If you need snow and want snow that sticks on the road move somewhere that’s normal because it’s a huge anomaly where you live. 

 

 

 

I guess im not sure what would cause my climo to be different than immediate areas. Such as Baltimore, DC, or even Philadelphia.

Can't think of any. I give up!

I don't mearue from the street. I measure from the grass, we have literally not had a 6 inch snowstorm since the Blizzard of 2016. Thats not climo. Thats bad luck.

YOu are a great forecaster. But you definitely have some weird March fetish. Every March is going to be great, and the truth is, they rarely are. March snow is like begging for scraps after you missed the main meal. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mattie g]

42 minutes ago, Interstate said:

That is BS.  There were no problems either of the previous two days.  The only thing different is there was not a WInd Chill Advisory this morning.  If they were late the pervious two days because of temps... they should have been late today.  There was no reason for 2 hours late or closures for the last three days.

That's what I'm saying. I prefer that organizations use prior experience to make decisions, and I can only assume that Fairfax County decided to open on time today because there were no issues with the buses on the two previous cold days. Of course, this assumes that the reason they opened late was because of concerns about buses getting started on time, so without saying anything other than "it's cold so we're opening late" I can only make assumptions based on my own logic.

44 minutes ago, snowmagnet said:

They clearly are not paying attention to teachers who have schools and  classrooms that are 50 degrees or for walkers, or kids waiting at bus stops for 10 or more minutes.  Many of the kids around here either do not own or don't have outerwear equipped for this kind of weather.  And not all the parents are able to drive their walkers to school. 

The issue with this is that schools would be closed far more often if these were major concerns. I'm not dismissing what you're saying, but there needs to be some level of give and take when it comes to making decisions in these situations.

[TSG]

It wouldn't have felt like a real arctic outbreak without my heat going out one night  

[Maestrobjwa]

3 hours ago, RevWarReenactor said:

 

 

 

 

I guess im not sure what would cause my climo to be different than immediate areas. Such as Baltimore, DC, or even Philadelphia.

Can't think of any. I give up!

I don't mearue from the street. I measure from the grass, we have literally not had a 6 inch snowstorm since the Blizzard of 2016. Thats not climo. Thats bad luck.

YOu are a great forecaster. But you definitely have some weird March fetish. Every March is going to be great, and the truth is, they rarely are. March snow is like begging for scraps after you missed the main meal. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well as far as the "March fetish" is concerned, you gotta remember HIS climo. He can score in March much easier than other parts of the sub, so if there bias there that's why, lol

[psuhoffman]

4 hours ago, RevWarReenactor said:

 

 

 

 

I guess im not sure what would cause my climo to be different than immediate areas. Such as Baltimore, DC, or even Philadelphia.

Can't think of any. I give up!

I don't mearue from the street. I measure from the grass, we have literally not had a 6 inch snowstorm since the Blizzard of 2016. Thats not climo. Thats bad luck.

YOu are a great forecaster. But you definitely have some weird March fetish. Every March is going to be great, and the truth is, they rarely are. March snow is like begging for scraps after you missed the main meal. 

I was adding some dramatics for effect in my post but...for me March has been my snowiest month over the last 10 years by far so.... and for many in this forum it's been pretty good.  2009, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018 and 2022 all delivered significant snowfall to at least a portion (I don't just mean me on the fringe northern border) of this forum.  

As for your climo, I can't say for sure, but remember years back we took a look at coop data near you and established that your snowfall seems to be consistently lower than very close geographically stations.  My theory...it has to do with where you are in relation to water, you're surrounded on 3 sides by water and you are at near sea level southeast of the fall line...warmth floods north along the bay and up the Delmarva and you have absolutely nothing to stop it.  You also downslope off the hills to your northwest.  The same type snowfall gradient happens further south near the Bay but because you have this big body of water separating the communities it doesn't seem as drastic, but snowfall is significantly lower east of the bay then west and that phenomenon kills you because even though the Bay ends just southwest of you, the same impact gets to you as the warmth comes up the bay then continues northeast with nothing to stop it from getting to you.  That's my theory, but no matter what the cause, the fact is snowfall data shows you live in a regional snowfall minimum.  A snow anus so to speak.  Dundalk near Baltimore has a similar phenomenon.  The people that live there know they will get less snow than anyone else in the Baltimore area 9/10 times.  It's just how it is.  You won't change it by complaining about it...you could move 20 miles away and have a significantly better snow climo though if that matters to you.  

[ravensrule]

6 hours ago, mappy said:

probably best not to comment on things you know maybe 5% about.  

Thanks for your horrible advice. Thanks for also hiding all my responses. Way to act like an adult. 

[H2O]

lol

[mdhokie]

Anyone else ready for a thaw and salt/crud wash? I'll probably get laughed at on this forum but I'm ready for a couple days of above freezing and maybe a good rain to wash all the crud out. I love snow but not sure I could live full time in the Northern Midwest states.

[mattie g]

Just now, mdhokie said:

Anyone else ready for a thaw and salt/crud wash? I'll probably get laughed at on this forum but I'm ready for a couple days of above freezing and maybe a good rain to wash all the crud out. I love snow but not sure I could live full time in the Northern Midwest states.

It's great if snowpack gets refreshed, but if not then it just gets ugly. Yellow and brown snow, twigs, leaves, salt and dirt spray from the roads, etc. - it's just not pretty!

It's been an amazing stretch of snowcover and just a general winter feel for MBY, but I'm about ready to wash it clean and see if we can pad the stats in a few weeks.