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January 4-6th Winter Storm


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3 minutes ago, Stevo6899 said:

The whole argument was that the past 5 winters have sucked and downriver has seen just as much action as other areas. Y'all can sugarcoat and scoot around it all you want.  

Yes the winters have sucked but the northern suburbs have seen more snow in the period. Nothing to sugarcoat just stating the facts.

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Just now, Stevo6899 said:

Gulf lows are the best. Lows that come out of panhandle and this current one favors areas to our west. But you can keep going against what I say for fun if you want. A strenghtheing low coming out of NE Oklahoma in no way would deliver here, and easily track through chicago, at best fort wayne.

Dude the GHD blizzard was a panhandle storm, so was the Blizzard of 99 and 78. What are we even doing here..

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2 minutes ago, Stebo said:

Dude the GHD blizzard was a panhandle storm, so was the Blizzard of 99 and 78. What are we even doing here..

he's doing something i (and others) were yelled at for saying happens in every winter thread.

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Just now, Chicago Storm said:

he's doing something i (and others) were yelled at for saying happens in every winter thread.

Yeah he needs to stop making the thread about himself, and move that shit to another thread, like the complaint thread for example.

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Pretty impressive this high is this strong with no snowpack aid at the surface really at all. Congrats to Indy, Cincy, Columbus & Pittsburgh. I'm just happy I'll be able to go over to Mt Brighton for some fake snow for the next few weeks
That plus the confluence from the upper low/PV lobe over eastern Canada and the northeast forced south by the NAO block.


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3 minutes ago, RCNYILWX said:

That plus the confluence from the upper low/PV lobe over eastern Canada and the northeast forced south by the NAO block.

 

Yeah that PV lobe is really screwing everyone over.

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1 hour ago, A-L-E-K said:

currently riding the canadian obv

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I'm genuinely curious what post storm temperatures would look like in the Chicagoland Metro compared to outlying areas due to a hypothetical snowpack from this scenario. 

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36 minutes ago, Stebo said:

Yes the winters have sucked but the northern suburbs have seen more snow in the period. Nothing to sugarcoat just stating the facts.

The 12" snowstorm with solid thundersnow in March '23 is just sugar-coated fake news to Stevo ... ;) :lol:

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currently riding the canadian obv
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I know you know that's overdone, but re. the LES, def a signal there for some accums, orientation and residence time of convergence TBD. Main limiting factor is lower inversion heights (around 850 mb), which would reduce flake size and snow ratios. Also the instability and lake to 850 delta Ts are on the modest side.

The Canadians have higher inversion heights than the other guidance but not so much higher to explain the difference in QPF/snow amounts.


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Freezing rain threat still appears to be a major concern along the Ohio River valley. That may end up being the real "star" of this storm if trends hold. Plus, cold air filtering in behind this system means melting won't happen like we typically see with freezing rain events.

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2 hours ago, Stebo said:

Yes the winters have sucked but the northern suburbs have seen more snow in the period. Nothing to sugarcoat just stating the facts.

2020-21 and 2021-22 were fine. Both had excellent stretches. And 2022-23 had 2 storms with thundersnow and an ice storm. IMO, only last winter truly sucked. The whole thing is getting tiresome. Sometimes liking what you like OR stating facts, doesnt matter, damned if you do and damned if you dont. Bottom line - here are the facts. The last 5 winters (2019-20 thru 2023-24) BOTH Detroit and Flint each saw 6 storms of 6"+ and both saw peak snow depths in those 5 years of 14". Avg snowfall the past 5 winters was 39.3" at Detroit and 48.3" at Flint. Great winters? No. As bad as some act like? NO. 

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There is a chance St. Louis might actually get 6"+ out of this storm. It would be the first occurrence in nearly 5 years. It depends on how much of the expected precipitation falls as sleet. 

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We lost the ICON...LOL

Upper Level Trough goes positive too fast leading to all this crap on the EURO/CMC/ICON.  Ironically, it's typically the other way around leading to my area getting dry slotted with a strengthening storm.  

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12 minutes ago, buckeye said:

gfs doubling down, may even be slightly north.   crazy stuff at 60 hours out

Weird thing is, if you saw the GFS like that a week out, we'd be going nuts in the southern lakes.  

Up shot here is, many of us will finally get some sleep tonight.  

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