Snowfall NYC subforum Jan 6 and OBS if needed

[psv88]

It’s gonna snow. Put the maps away. You know it, I know it and they know it. 
 

To be clear, I am still incredibly hungover from last night. That said, it’s going to snow. 

[MANDA]

35 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

There was also record high temperatures in the 80s as well it was a disaster all around for snowfall. Only five above average snowfall Winters for New York City in the 30-year period of 1970 through 1999.

Boy, that stat sure sheds light on a 30 year period.  I could probably mention all 5 years off the top of my head. 

Those were tough times.  There were some memorable storms in there, just very few of them.

[SnowGoose69]

45 minutes ago, NEG NAO said:

then hope the Ukie and Icon are correct

the NavGEM is north of the GFS which is nice 

[NEG NAO]

25 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

It still looks fine

EPS is not fine BUT we are not even sure if the models are measuring the confluence correctly could easily ease up a bit before showtime...allowing a shift north in the precip field

[gravitylover]

3 hours ago, Voyager said:

We just need 75 miles. Is it doable, though?

At this range nothing will be 'the' solution. Could be great but it could also be nothing. I cleaned up the driveway this morning to make shoveling easier

[vegan_edible]

2 minutes ago, gravitylover said:

At this range nothing will be 'the' solution. Could be great but it could also be nothing. I cleaned up the driveway this morning to make shoveling easier

if this doesn't materialize, im making you the scapegoat bc of the driveway cleanage 

[RU848789]

NAM!

Just kidding.  Getting ready for our annual NYE party, so no model watching for the next ~12 hours or so, and figured it's fairly dead between model suites.  Happy New Year All!

[weatherpruf]

2 hours ago, MANDA said:

Boy, that stat sure sheds light on a 30 year period.  I could probably mention all 5 years off the top of my head. 

Those were tough times.  There were some memorable storms in there, just very few of them.

Surprised there were 5...I'd guess 82, 83, and 87. Here in CNJ I can't think of any other 80s winters with any significant events. 89 in S Jersey maybe. Don't remember 80 too well, but never had a snow day in HS ( only in 1978, none of the other years, graduated in 81 ). Taught starting in 89 and had no snow days until 1993, the March storm. After that we had epic 94, 96, and then zilch again until the aughts. So it was much snowier the last two decades than I remember as a kid. Jim McGreevy, in his bio, writes about his struggles as mayor of Woodbridge with all the snow in 94, more than he ever remembered as a child. That is accurate, and that winter hit everyone with their pants down; snow shovels with rotten wooden handles and rusty blades were dug up from under junk in garages, snowblowers were brought out of mothballs ( and didn't work ) as they were not usable in the previous 93 storm ice, and you could not buy salt, even table salt, sand or kitty litter, as Home Depot had not swallowed the market yet. Good times.

[Tatamy]

48 minutes ago, weatherpruf said:

Surprised there were 5...I'd guess 82, 83, and 87. Here in CNJ I can't think of any other 80s winters with any significant events. 89 in S Jersey maybe. Don't remember 80 too well, but never had a snow day in HS ( only in 1978, none of the other years, graduated in 81 ). Taught starting in 89 and had no snow days until 1993, the March storm. After that we had epic 94, 96, and then zilch again until the aughts. So it was much snowier the last two decades than I remember as a kid. Jim McGreevy, in his bio, writes about his struggles as mayor of Woodbridge with all the snow in 94, more than he ever remembered as a child. That is accurate, and that winter hit everyone with their pants down; snow shovels with rotten wooden handles and rusty blades were dug up from under junk in garages, snowblowers were brought out of mothballs ( and didn't work ) as they were not usable in the previous 93 storm ice, and you could not buy salt, even table salt, sand or kitty litter, as Home Depot had not swallowed the market yet. Good times.

Add in 78 and 79

[BoulderWX]

No point in model watching for next 36 hours - happy new years, all! 
 

also this (ducks): 

 

[NEG NAO]

33 minutes ago, BoulderWX said:

No point in model watching for next 36 hours - happy new years, all! 
 

also this (ducks): 

 

No suppression later next week according to 18Z GFS

[WestBabylonWeather]

Just now, NEG NAO said:

No suppression later next week according to 18Z GFS

I don’t wanna be in the bulls eye this far out. But hey. Let’s go 

[Allsnow]

Euro further south then 12z 

[MJO812]

7 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Euro further south then 12z 

Eps is interesting 

[Allsnow]

6 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Eps is interesting 

Increased totals for dca but tighten the gradient by nyc. 

[Allsnow]

16 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Increased totals for dca but tighten the gradient by nyc. 

6 decent hits out of 50 on the eps. We need some good trends tomorrow or this is probably over 

[WestBabylonWeather]

I’ll take the LI coastal grazer 

[Allsnow]

3 hours ago, weatherpruf said:

Surprised there were 5...I'd guess 82, 83, and 87. Here in CNJ I can't think of any other 80s winters with any significant events. 89 in S Jersey maybe. Don't remember 80 too well, but never had a snow day in HS ( only in 1978, none of the other years, graduated in 81 ). Taught starting in 89 and had no snow days until 1993, the March storm. After that we had epic 94, 96, and then zilch again until the aughts. So it was much snowier the last two decades than I remember as a kid. Jim McGreevy, in his bio, writes about his struggles as mayor of Woodbridge with all the snow in 94, more than he ever remembered as a child. That is accurate, and that winter hit everyone with their pants down; snow shovels with rotten wooden handles and rusty blades were dug up from under junk in garages, snowblowers were brought out of mothballs ( and didn't work ) as they were not usable in the previous 93 storm ice, and you could not buy salt, even table salt, sand or kitty litter, as Home Depot had not swallowed the market yet. Good times.

I remember the salt shortage that winter which lead to DPW/private contractors throwing sand down on the roads 

[Allsnow]

2 hours ago, BoulderWX said:

No point in model watching for next 36 hours - happy new years, all! 
 

also this (ducks): 

 

The snow mean continues to go up down south but not for our area. I’m actually concerned at this point we won’t see much the first two weeks 

[vegan_edible]

2 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

The snow mean continues to go up down south but not for our area. I’m actually concerned at this point we won’t see much the first two weeks 

me too. i wanna see this suppression trend decrease at 00Z. let's keep our fingers crossed. 

[SnoSki14]

41 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

The snow mean continues to go up down south but not for our area. I’m actually concerned at this point we won’t see much the first two weeks 

Southern states are going to clean up while we get nothing?

[nightknights]

Why do you live run to run.  Its 6 days away whoever is in the bullseye now will not be there 6 days from now.    

[vegan_edible]

gfs bumps north

[Snowlover11]

Happy New Years Weenies!!!

[Franklin0529]

Euro more north.

[Snowlover11]

23 minutes ago, Franklin0529 said:

Euro more north.

meh not enough.

[NEG NAO]

19 minutes ago, Snowlover11 said:

meh not enough.

question now is once the system gets onshore in the west in a couple of days if better sampling of it for the models to digest will change the outcome ?- right now looks like a minor event in the NYC Metro for early next week according to the 0Z model runs - no sense in even speculating on the later next week potential event yet IMO......all we know for sure is below normal temps arrive this weekend for an extended period of time....

[LibertyBell]

11 hours ago, MANDA said:

Boy, that stat sure sheds light on a 30 year period.  I could probably mention all 5 years off the top of my head. 

Those were tough times.  There were some memorable storms in there, just very few of them.

February 1983 was more memorable than any storm since February 1978 and until January 1996

[LibertyBell]

9 hours ago, weatherpruf said:

Surprised there were 5...I'd guess 82, 83, and 87. Here in CNJ I can't think of any other 80s winters with any significant events. 89 in S Jersey maybe. Don't remember 80 too well, but never had a snow day in HS ( only in 1978, none of the other years, graduated in 81 ). Taught starting in 89 and had no snow days until 1993, the March storm. After that we had epic 94, 96, and then zilch again until the aughts. So it was much snowier the last two decades than I remember as a kid. Jim McGreevy, in his bio, writes about his struggles as mayor of Woodbridge with all the snow in 94, more than he ever remembered as a child. That is accurate, and that winter hit everyone with their pants down; snow shovels with rotten wooden handles and rusty blades were dug up from under junk in garages, snowblowers were brought out of mothballs ( and didn't work ) as they were not usable in the previous 93 storm ice, and you could not buy salt, even table salt, sand or kitty litter, as Home Depot had not swallowed the market yet. Good times.

the only above normal snowfall winter during the 80s was 82-83 and it wasn't even above normal but more like near normal because of the big blizzard.  30 inches plus is required for above normal snowfall and that never happened between 1977-78 and 1993-94

 

[NorthShoreWx]

11 hours ago, MANDA said:

Boy, that stat sure sheds light on a 30 year period.  I could probably mention all 5 years off the top of my head. 

Those were tough times.  There were some memorable storms in there, just very few of them.

I can only think of 3 off the top of my head.  It was brutal, although there were a couple of decent winters on the island that were BN in NYC.