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January 2025 General Discussion


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Say what you will about this winter, but this incoming cold wave is impressive considering the lack of snowpack both here and upstream. As of rn Monday is forecast to be 0 for a high and both Sunday and Monday nights are supposed to be around -10 for a low. That's pretty significant even if it's not historic or anything. We usually only have one or two 0 or below highs a winter, and pretty much all of those have snow and several inches of snow OTG. So pretty unusual. Of course, if we did have anything resembling a snowpack this would be a major if not historic cold wave. Still will be a frigid few days early next week.

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Surprise 1.4" overnight and more starting around midnight tonight. Depth literally inching its way up with 5+ OTG. Best since 12/23 and looking a lot more like January should. Saturday looking good for SEMI. Will have to see whether the more north-including models are onto a trend. If so, it'd be a lot like last weekend's system. 

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ONE FINAL THING NOT REALLY RELATED TO THE FORECAST FOR TODAY AND   
TOMORROW... IT'S BEEN A BUSY PERIOD OF WEATHER ACROSS THE LOWER   
GREAT LAKES. INCLUDING TODAY (AS IT WAS SNOWING AT MIDNIGHT),   
THERE WAS AT LEAST A TRACE OF SNOW ON 5 OF THE PAST 7 DAYS, AND   
MEASURABLE SNOW ON 4 OF THE PAST 7, IN AT LEAST PART OF OUR   
FORECAST AREA. THANKFULLY, WE REMAIN IN A "NICKEL-AND-DIME" SNOW  
REGIME RATHER THAN ONE SUPPORTIVE OF MOISTURE-LADEN WINTER   
STORMS, BUT WE DID LOG JUST OVER 6 INCHES OF SNOW AT OUR OFFICE   
OVER THE PAST 7 DAYS. OF COURSE, THIS ISN'T AT ALL UNUSUAL FOR   
THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY THIS TIME OF YEAR. BUT, MULTIPLE DAYS   
OF SNOW IN THE SPAN OF 7 DAYS IS SOMEWHAT NOTEWORTHY IN A WINTER  
THAT HAS THUS FAR NOT BROUGHT A BIG SNOWFALL IN OUR LOCAL AREA.  -LOT Morning AFD

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9 minutes ago, dmc76 said:

Amazing how it snows every single day in Michigan in a cold pattern. Every day woke up to  another 1.25” or so. 

15 for 15 so far and it snowed today so make it 16 for 16.

 

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CXUS53 KGRR 161010
CF6GRR
PRELIMINARY LOCAL CLIMATOLOGICAL DATA (WS FORM: F-6)

                                          STATION:   GRAND RAPIDS
                                          MONTH:     JANUARY
                                          YEAR:      2025
                                          LATITUDE:   42 52 N
                                          LONGITUDE:  85 31 W

  TEMPERATURE IN F:       :PCPN:    SNOW:  WIND      :SUNSHINE: SKY     :PK WND
================================================================================
1   2   3   4   5  6A  6B    7    8   9   10  11  12  13   14  15   16   17  18
                                     12Z  AVG MX 2MIN
DY MAX MIN AVG DEP HDD CDD  WTR  SNW DPTH SPD SPD DIR MIN PSBL S-S WX    SPD DR
================================================================================

 1  35  28  32   5  33   0 0.16  2.7    T 11.3 23 280   M    M  10 129    33 290
 2  28  24  26  -1  39   0 0.03  0.5    1 10.0 17 270   M    M  10 1      25 280
 3  27  20  24  -2  41   0 0.05  1.6    2 12.4 22 300   M    M  10 1      28 290
 4  21  14  18  -8  47   0    T    T    2 11.8 18 280   M    M   9 8      28 320
 5  22  14  18  -8  47   0    T    T    2  7.0 15 320   M    M   8        20 330
 6  24  20  22  -4  43   0    T    T    1 10.3 18 360   M    M   9        26 360
 7  28  21  25  -1  40   0    T    T    1  9.5 17 360   M    M  10        24 350
 8  24  16  20  -6  45   0 0.01  0.3    1  6.2 13  60   M    M  10 1      15  60
 9  26   8  17  -8  48   0    T    T    1  6.4 14 190   M    M   5        20 190
10  25  16  21  -4  44   0 0.21  2.5    1 10.1 16 180   M    M   9 1      21 190
11  32  24  28   3  37   0    T  0.2    3  6.8 12 280   M    M   9 1      15 290
12  33  25  29   4  36   0 0.08  1.3    3 13.6 28 260   M    M  10 1      37 250
13  29  17  23  -2  42   0 0.07  2.4    4 15.1 23 270   M    M  10 18     33 240
14  19  10  15 -10  50   0 0.09  1.8    6  9.6 18 320   M    M   8 1      25 310
15  23  15  19  -6  46   0    T  0.1    6 12.8 22 250   M    M   9 1      28 240
================================================================================
SM  396  272       638   0  0.70 13.4    152.9          M      136
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Very good question - I will look that up.

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With officially 0 SD, it's only happened twice:

2/2/1996 (-5/-16)
2/3/1996 (-5/-19)

I believe that -19 is the record low with no snow cover.

With a T snow depth, it's happened 4 times:

2/23/1889 (-2/-11)
1/5/1912 (-5/-10)
1/6/1912 (-1/-11)
1/7/1942 (-4/-13)

There's been 47 days total with sub-zero highs in the entire period of record.

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16 hours ago, Geoboy645 said:

Say what you will about this winter, but this incoming cold wave is impressive considering the lack of snowpack both here and upstream. As of rn Monday is forecast to be 0 for a high and both Sunday and Monday nights are supposed to be around -10 for a low. That's pretty significant even if it's not historic or anything. We usually only have one or two 0 or below highs a winter, and pretty much all of those have snow and several inches of snow OTG. So pretty unusual. Of course, if we did have anything resembling a snowpack this would be a major if not historic cold wave. Still will be a frigid few days early next week.

I'm excited for the frostquakes

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gfs might have to be the designated driver of the big 3 models.   Has us bottoming out around zero next tues-wed while the euro has us -18 and the ggem, (completely sh*t faced) has us -28 which would blow away the all time record low.   I would imagine we would have to have a deep snow pack and clear skies for that to even come remotely close.

I'll also add that if we get numbers anywhere close to that the good news is the rubberband probably breaks and winter, (for the most part), is essentially over.   Think of December 1989 for example.   This has that feel except a month later.  Relentless cold that started at the beginning of the month, climaxed the third week and disappeared for the rest of the winter.  

A man can hope at least.

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7 hours ago, dmc76 said:

Amazing how it snows every single day in Michigan in a cold pattern. Every day woke up to  another 1.25” or so. 

Yup. Was a very pretty snowfall today, the real fluffy kind. Finished with 1.5" here and 1.4" at DTW. Ive now nickled and dimed my way to 7.4" in January and 12.9" on the season.

Definitely looks like winter outside. 

 

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4 hours ago, RCNYILWX said:

With officially 0 SD, it's only happened twice:

2/2/1996 (-5/-16)
2/3/1996 (-5/-19)

I believe that -19 is the record low with no snow cover.

With a T snow depth, it's happened 4 times:

2/23/1889 (-2/-11)
1/5/1912 (-5/-10)
1/6/1912 (-1/-11)
1/7/1942 (-4/-13)

There's been 47 days total with sub-zero highs in the entire period of record.

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I remember the 1996 cold snap with completely bare ground too. Not as cold as Chicago, but still 3 straight days with lows below zero. Ahh the winter of 1995-96 from, Chicago to Detroit. :yikes: ORD may hang onto their 1" depth tho?

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4 hours ago, RCNYILWX said:

With a T snow depth, it's happened 4 times:

2/23/1889 (-2/-11)
1/5/1912 (-5/-10)
1/6/1912 (-1/-11)
1/7/1942 (-4/-13)

For this section note that a T of snow depth is no longer recorded, and hasn't been for a very long time. Anything <0.5" is recorded as 0" snow depth.

So, those stats can be misleading.

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