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Winter Banter 24-25


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5 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

the question is why this happened and why was the cold air centered over the central and eastern US

 

It seems the cold spots have been in either Siberia or Europe over the past 5 years or so.  The Pacific jet didn't help during those years, just scouring out any cooler air in Canada.  This year, we saw some of the cold pockets actually come up and over the poles, down into eastern Canada.  I don't know if there is actually a why?  Almost like a roulette wheel, a game of chance where the cold air will drop into to?  Of course it will follow the path of least resistance, which some can explain better than myself...

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On a side note, I wonder how much we ever stop and appreciate that this forum has been around since late 2010, and has active discussion about storms leading up the event, observations during the event, and then post-event analysis for almost every weather event that has happened in CONUS since late 2010. This has to be the only site like that. There are sub-forums that encompass the whole country (even though the Tennessee River Valley and West forum aren’t that active). Just like a treasure trove of model runs, forecasts, and observations as they happen in real time. I wonder if this site will become a historical marker one day ?

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10 minutes ago, Krs4Lfe said:

On a side note, I wonder how much we ever stop and appreciate that this forum has been around since late 2010, and has active discussion about storms leading up the event, observations during the event, and then post-event analysis for almost every weather event that has happened in CONUS since late 2010. This has to be the only site like that. There are sub-forums that encompass the whole country (even though the Tennessee River Valley and West forum aren’t that active). Just like a treasure trove of model runs, forecasts, and observations as they happen in real time. I wonder if this site will become a historical marker one day ?

It's funny you mention that. I was just perusing the great gfs model comeback on Christmas eve morning before the boxing day blizzard of 2010. Everyone should go back and read for fun

 

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4 hours ago, Stormlover74 said:

It's funny you mention that. I was just perusing the great gfs model comeback on Christmas eve morning before the boxing day blizzard of 2010. Everyone should go back and read for fun

 

Was one of the first old threads I went back and read through when I first signed up at American WX a few years ago. I really think Boxing Day was my favorite storm of all time despite living through multiple HECS. I lived in North Brunswick then which was near one of the maxes in NJ. Especially coming just after the holiday was the perfect chef’s kiss on the whole thing.

Sadly the only big storm I’ve been able to experience live here was 1/29/22 and that was only a real big one for like myself and LI, but was still exciting overall.

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17 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

the question is why this happened and why was the cold air centered over the central and eastern US

 

This may be an easy question but why the North Pole has such a high positive temperature departure compared to the South Pole which looks neutral. Easy answers would be more land mass in the northern hemisphere as well as more ice and snow and landmass in the South Pole while the North Pole eyes is melting. However the answer may not be that simple.

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2 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

This may be an easy question but why the North Pole has such a high positive temperature departure compared to the South Pole which looks neutral. Easy answers would be more land mass in the northern hemisphere as well as more ice and snow and landmass in the South Pole while the North Pole eyes is melting. However the answer may not be that simple.

But Eurasia which has a much larger landmass is much warmer-- look at all that warm air over Europe and Siberia

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11 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

But Eurasia which has a much larger landmass is much warmer-- look at all that warm air over Europe and Siberia

Yeah I am thinking the North Pole has a much greater positive temperature departure due to more land masses which would have more population centers creating heat than the southern hemisphere. 

That of course Plus all that ice down there where the North Pole is losing ice and has less land mass to house snow.

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On 2/17/2025 at 2:10 PM, LibertyBell said:

hmm Japan was also very cold and they got record snows

Japan has had a relatively warm winter. Despite that, some of the "heavy snow regions" have had a snowy winter... probably partly due to the warm anomalies in the Sea of Japan. Or are you referring to a different year?

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4 minutes ago, eduggs said:

Japan has had a relatively warm winter. Despite that, some of the "heavy snow regions" have had a snowy winter... probably partly due to the warm anomalies in the Sea of Japan. Or are you referring to a different year?

it's the dark blue area in the upper right of that map, maybe just north of Japan-- Kamchatka Peninsula?

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I honestly don't know if the earth is flat or not, who cares! All I know is I don't trust the government look what Doge and Elon are doing. They are discovering massive amounts of fraud, what makes you think Nasa isn't a fraudulent entity?

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2 hours ago, Feen said:

I honestly don't know if the earth is flat or not, who cares! All I know is I don't trust the government look what Doge and Elon are doing. They are discovering massive amounts of fraud, what makes you think Nasa isn't a fraudulent entity?

Do you think there is a chance the moon is made out of cheese? If so, what type of cheese?

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On 2/17/2025 at 11:55 PM, Stormlover74 said:

It's funny you mention that. I was just perusing the great gfs model comeback on Christmas eve morning before the boxing day blizzard of 2010. Everyone should go back and read for fun

 

I’ve been thinking for a while about making a plea to posters from an archivist perspective. I worked 6 months as a media archivist for a news company when I was younger. Made me appreciate how much of a time capsule obscure moments in history can be. That’s especially true with weather. Modeling images in a lot of storm threads are dead links. 

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5 hours ago, Feen said:

God can we please just get a 36-48 hour snowstorm that just rips and accumulates around 30-40 inches throughout the region. Snowman19 can jackpot I don't mind!

Please God!

So Central Union County NJ received two 29.5" snowstorms since 1996.  Is it even possible that the greater NYC metro area can see a snowstorm >40", or a scenario of direct back to back storms totaling over that amount?

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18 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

So Central Union County NJ received two 29.5" snowstorms since 1996.  Is it even possible that the greater NYC metro area can see a snowstorm >40", or a scenario of direct back to back storms totaling over that amount?

i would settle for a 12 inch snow event that lasts 36 hours with winds of 25-35 mph

 

Yeah i'd be happy with it

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22 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

So Central Union County NJ received two 29.5" snowstorms since 1996.  Is it even possible that the greater NYC metro area can see a snowstorm >40", or a scenario of direct back to back storms totaling over that amount?

You would need a capture/stall scenario like 1888 or Feb 2013 further west

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