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Winter 2024/2025 January Thread


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I'd like to suggest that when we are tracking and commenting on multiple storms, that everyone please ensure you specifically designate which storm you are commenting on. The forum is getting really hard to follow with so many non-descriptive comments. Not trying to complain, just really interested in following what everyone is thinking. Appreciate all the input.

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7 minutes ago, Icy Hot said:

I'd like to suggest that when we are tracking and commenting on multiple storms, that everyone please ensure you specifically designate which storm you are commenting on. The forum is getting really hard to follow with so many non-descriptive comments. Not trying to complain, just really interested in following what everyone is thinking. Appreciate all the input.

Right now any reference to the possibility of winter wx is for the Jan.10 onward in this forum.  There is a separate thread for the Jan.5-6 storm that will mainly be rain for most in the state of TN.  Maybe some ice at the onset. 

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37 minutes ago, Icy Hot said:

I'd like to suggest that when we are tracking and commenting on multiple storms, that everyone please ensure you specifically designate which storm you are commenting on. The forum is getting really hard to follow with so many non-descriptive comments. Not trying to complain, just really interested in following what everyone is thinking. Appreciate all the input.

Yeah I'm definitely guilty of focusing on the primary bigger impact event when there are more than one on the horizon.  I can see how that can be confusing.  I echo Matthew in that for most folks tomorrow's storm likely is not going to be very impactful in comparison with the 10th for most of the forum.  Not to say tomorrows storm is a nothing storm I wouldn't be surprised with freezing rain that some areas get a nice punch before it switches to regular liquid.

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The storm later this week Jan. 10-11 definitely is showing to be a nice solid hit statewide.  The Euro is steady in the camp now.  Looks like a solid 4-8” across the state.  Now if the temps are colder then the rates will be higher than the normal 10:1.  Good times ahead.  Let’s reel in this big dog.  Woof woof! 

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In the 4-7 day timeframe my rule is you always want to be in the middle of solutions. 

If you are hugging one model that's the most amped or the most suppressed 99% of the time you will end up disappointed. 

This storm we (being Central/Eastern TN) are dead center in the middle of solutions. Take this 6z GEFS shot. A few amped. A few suppressed. The majority in the middle. 
 

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Look at this EPS average. That's money with onset being 5-6 days out.  I think people on twitter and other forums are too caught up tracking run to run OP changes right now. With a phasing system ensembles are a  very powerful tool. While OP runs are jumping the last day of trends on ensembles has been stellar. Phasing is always a tight rope. And one that may take another 72 hrs to nail down.

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17 minutes ago, John1122 said:

The ICON shifted way north and nailed Tennessee. The 06z GFS ended up building a glacier late run after the next weekend storm passed (oddly except for all of Knox County) so the pattern may be loaded or the GFS may just be loaded. 

If the MJO does go to Ph 1 and blocking continues could be correct. Right now, Pattern is acting like late stage Ph 7 with blocking. Makes sense in a way as it went ph. 7 before going basically COD. 

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A lot of the snow maps being posted on various forums look beautiful for my area,, but as usual, I'm keeping my expectations low for the simple fact that WAA can destroy a good snow in Chattanooga. It happened last January. We were 33° with a mix before turning to all rain. Across the Tennessee river and points north got hammered with snow. We were 8 miles away from a 2" minimum snow where the rain/snow line cut off. Portions of north Hamilton County received 8" and even more as you go up the mountains around Dunlap. The thing about Chattanooga is that we might go 5-10 years with minimal snow, but when we do score, it's normally on the extreme high levels. Here's to hoping this could be one of those extremes!

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Late week likely has a ceiling keeping a positively tilted trough.  This isn’t a terrible thing for a more widespread snow, however it also provides the environment where we lose lift and the moisture feed drys up the further east you go.  The higher resolution Euro may be correct in picking this up.  Better for temps, worse for totals, especially east and northeast through the mid south into the southern apps.  


Still a ways to go, but good to see modeling start to come together around a general track as we get closer.  Let’s see if we can reel in a winter event, regardless of size.

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