January 2025

[uofmiami]

8 in Muttontown & 9 in Syosset currently. 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, Rjay said:

12 here

1 at FOX

be interesting to see if they go below zero

[LibertyBell]

47 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

Next week, the pattern is completely unsupportive of any major snowstorms IMO. I don’t care what GFS fantasies may show up

Monday seems to be borderline but the more it gets pushed back (originally it was supposed to be Friday and then Saturday), the less likely it becomes.

[donsutherland1]

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Don did the pattern produce in Philly? I ask because it seems like there was a donut hole from NYC to Philly because we were sandwiched between two tracks-- neither of which benefit us-- and this is something that seems to happen quite often with a fast Pacific flow.

 

Philadelphia didn’t have any significant snowfalls.

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

Philadelphia didn’t have any significant snowfalls.

Same old story from the 80s repeating itself; two tracks, one to the south of us, the other to the northeast of us.

[weathermedic]

-8 at Montgomery according to the 5am NWS Obs. Coldest reading on that obs.

[BxEngine]

Down to 0 here. Pretty impressive. 

[snywx]

12 minutes ago, weathermedic said:

-8 at Montgomery according to the 5am NWS Obs. Coldest reading on that obs.

That’s MGJ. @IrishRob17 backyard. Very few places in our sub forum radiate better than that immediate area 

[IrishRob17]

4 minutes ago, snywx said:

That’s MGJ. @IrishRob17 backyard. Very few places in our sub forum radiate better than that immediate area 

-8.3 at the moment here 

[snywx]

I’m currently at -4 

should drop another couple degrees before 8am

[IrishRob17]

6 minutes ago, snywx said:

I’m currently at -4 

should drop another couple degrees before 8am

Here some other Davis stations around me, including their distance. I find mornings like this always interesting with all the variations. 

[LoboLeader1]

-5 here in the Berks, 8 above back home in HPN.

[bluewave]

As expected the Euro was nearly 10° too cold in spots around NYC and the coast with the westerly flow crossing the warm Great Lakes region. Current low so far of 12° in NYC. So NYC and coastal sections wont  be as cold as we were in early February 2023 on the N to NW flow when NYC got to 3° with subzero lows across the CT Shoreline. 

[snowman19]

38 minutes ago, BxEngine said:

Down to 0 here. Pretty impressive. 

I think early February, 2016 was the last time Rockland saw lows like this 

[BxEngine]

4 minutes ago, bluewave said:

As expected the Euro was nearly 10° too cold in spots around NYC and the coast with the westerly flow crossing the warm Great Lakes region. Current low so far of 12° in NYC. So NYC and coastal sections wont  be as cold as we were in early February 2023 on the N to NW flow when NYC got to 3° with subzero lows across the CT Shoreline. 

But it was too warm in parts of the area that still had the same airmass, and fairly accurate further north closer to the lakes. 

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

-3 the 8 inch snow cover helping out I'm sure. 

The same low I had December 23 also with snow cover, 3 inches at the time. 

[Volcanic Winter]

Seems I’ve bottomed out at 8F this morning.

[bluewave]

10 minutes ago, BxEngine said:

But it was too warm in parts of the area that still had the same airmass. 

That was due to the great radiational cooling and snow cover closer to your area. Since many spots from NYC to the immediate shoreline need the winds to stay up for their coldest readings when the flow is N to NW down the Hudson Valley and not the W.

The Euro originally was too suppressed and didn’t have the heavier snows near your area. It also was initially too cold for the coast and missed the rain and 40° warmth before the changeover on Sunday. Which combined with the subsidence and weaker precip rates for lower totals near the coast. 

[jm1220]

5 here. The calmer winds helped radiate. Looks like 10-11 in the city and on the shore. 

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

29 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

Here some other Davis stations around me, including their distance. I find mornings like this always interesting with all the variations. 

Those Legoland temps always seem suspiciously high. Hard to believe it's 6 above there and -10 in two other locations surrounding it, Chester and the Goshen station. What would make them 16 degrees higher? 
 

-3 here. 

[dmillz25]

11 here

[BxEngine]

1 minute ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

Those Legoland temps always seem suspiciously high. Hard to believe it's 6 above there and -10 in two other locations surrounding it, Chester and the Goshen station. What would make them 16 degrees higher? 
 

-3 here. 

Its probably on top of that hill and a building at legoland? Thats a pretty decent sized hill compared to even where 17 passes it, id bet even just down right on 17 its 7 or 8 degrees colder.

[wishcast_hater]

Before I went to bed I posted that I was at 7 degrees with a forecast low of 6. I knew that wouldn’t be the case, it was -6 as I left the house this morning and drove to Northern Manhattan where it’s a balmy 14 degrees.


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[BxEngine]

2 minutes ago, BxEngine said:

Its probably on top of that hill and a building at legoland? Thats a pretty decent sized hill compared to even where 17 passes it, id bet even just down right on 17 its 7 or 8 degrees colder.

Nice timing by upton lol

[Allsnow]

22 minutes ago, bluewave said:

As expected the Euro was nearly 10° too cold in spots around NYC and the coast with the westerly flow crossing the warm Great Lakes region. Current low so far of 12° in NYC. So NYC and coastal sections wont  be as cold as we were in early February 2023 on the N to NW flow when NYC got to 3° with subzero lows across the CT Shoreline. 

Is 12 degrees not cold? 
 

this January is a lock to finish below avg 

[Allsnow]

6 degrees 

deep winter 

[bluewave]

14 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Any idea if there is a cyclical pattern to benchmark KU storms Chris? I ask because we saw very few of them during the 70s, 80s and early 90s period too.  I can count the number on two hands, actually.  January 1978, February 1978, February 1979, January 1982, April 1982, February 1983, January 1987.  Most of these were clustered around the late 70s and early 80s, outside of that period there was only the January 1987 benchmark KU.

 

And then we saw a huge uptick beginning in the mid 90s and that period lasted through 2018, like you said.

 

What could be behind this cyclic pattern of benchmark KUs?  The AMO?

*note the 70s-80s period also had notable historic Deep South snowstorms, as we've seen again beginning with the early 2020s.

That’s a very good question. All we know is that NYC frequently got to the middle 19” to 29” snowfall range with or without KU snowstorms in the 1970s and 1980s. So in the much colder climate a KU wasn’t a prerequisite to get near to over 20” like it has become since the 1990s.

87-88….19.1”….No KU

86-87…..23.1”…KU

84-85….24.1”…No KU

83-84….25.4”…No KU

82-83….27.2”….KU

81-82….24.6”…KU

78-79….29.4”….KU

76-77….24.5”….No KU

73-74…..23.5”…No KU

71-72…..22.9…..No KU

 

[EastonSN+]

First blizzard warning ever in Louisiana.

[Dan76]

Blizzard  

[Dan76]

1 minute ago, EastonSN+ said:

First blizzard warning ever in Louisiana.

I wonder what that would be here ? WWA ?