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Until the Canadian and Euro and ensembles agree with the GFS multiple runs in a row on a snowstorm threat in January can't take the GFS seriously and who wants to be in the GFS bullseye this far out ? Sorry have to wait till we get into the 5-7 day range IMO to make a forecast...

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4 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

Temps in the low to mid teens during it!

whens the last time thats happened in the NYC metro in a MECS or HECS ? IMO I would wait till the first of the new year to make a storm thread if the guidance is still showing a chance of a storm........

 

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3 minutes ago, NEG NAO said:

whens the last time thats happened in the NYC metro in a MECS or HECS ? IMO I would wait till the first of the new year to make a storm thread if the guidance is still showing a chance of a storm........

 

Seems like the models aren't certain which short wave to key on, so probably plenty of time and stress before we/models know.

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I'd say the 1/8-9 timeframe is a higher potential period but obviously way too early. And probably not a coincidence that the Euro strengthened the prior storm and has it as a cutter/SWFE but lays down confluence for the one behind it to take a HECS track. I'd gladly sacrifice storm #1 if it works out that way. 

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12 minutes ago, NEG NAO said:

Then the gulf low rounds the corner up the east coast so now there is some agreement with the GFS OP and Euro OP BUT over 11 days out !

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I agree with you. Not even worth discussing the details of operational runs 11+ days out. It’s all going to change, hugely. Once past day 10, that’s not even the op Euro still, it’s the Euro control run that they integrated into it past 240 hours. 

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Buckle up folks, social media is about to go wild, but as amazing as this pattern looks, we all know that 11-day forecasts are highly uncertain and there are things that could go wrong to wreck the virtual snow we're looking at now.  As others have said, I'll be very interested, but I'm not going to start getting really excited about anything until I see some general consensus within 6-7 days, i.e., the timeframe when numerical weather prediction, which is inherently chaotic, starts to become more certain - that's why the NWS, who knows a thing or two about forecasting, doesn't issue forecasts beyond 7 days.  

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