January 2025

[FPizz]

23 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

March hasn’t been snowy here in years. Looks at @bluewavestats 

It has been 5 years, but the prior 3 to that averaged 16".  March averages a little more snow than December, but I always consider those months more hit and miss anyway

[SACRUS]

 

21 / 0 off a low of 3.  Step up warmer near 30 today above freezing for some today.   Warmer Sun - Tue but still Overall colder for the 7-10  day period with some strong brief colder periods.  

 

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 62 (2018)
NYC: 63 (1874)
LGA: 62 (1967)
JFK: 56 (1967)


Lows:

EWR: -4 (1936)
NYC: -3 (1936)
LGA:  3 (1976)
JFK: 2 (1976)

 

Historical:

 

1780 - The coldest day of the coldest month of record in the northeastern U.S. A British Army thermometer in New York City registered a reading of 16 degrees below zero. During that infamous hard winter the harbor was frozen solid for five weeks, and the port was cut off from sea supply. (David Ludlum)

 

1916: Browning, Montana, saw the temperature plummet 100 degrees in 24 hours on January 23-24, from a relatively mild 44 to a bone-chilling 56 degrees below zero.

 

1969: An F4 tornado cut a 120-mile long path from Jefferson through Copiah, Simpson, Smith, Scott, and Newton Counties in Mississippi, killing 32 and injuring 241 others. Property damage was estimated at $2 million. An inbound Delta Airlines aircraft reported a hook echo on its scope with this storm.

1971 - The temperature at Prospect Creek, AK, plunged to 80 degrees below zero, the coldest reading of record for the United States. (David Ludlum)

 

1971: Alaska, and the US, lowest official temp, -80F (-62.2C), was set at Prospect Creek, a Trans-Alaska Oil Pipeline construction camp. Fun fact: the low was initially recorded as -79F but adjusted after thermometer calibration

1987 - Strong winds ushered bitterly cold air into the north central U.S., and produced snow squalls in the Great Lakes Region. Snowfall totals in northwest Lower Michigan ranged up to 17 inches in Leelanau County. Wind chill temperatures reached 70 degrees below zero at Sault Ste Marie MI and Hibbing MN. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Northeastern Colorado experienced its most severe windstorm in years. A wind gust to 92 mph was recorded at Boulder CO before the anenometer blew away, and in the mountains, a wind gust to 120 mph was reported at Mines Peak. The high winds blew down a partially constructed viaduct east of Boulder, as nine unanchored concrete girders, each weighing forty-five tons, were blown off their supports. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Low pressure brought heavy snow to Wyoming, with 18 inches reported at the Shoshone National Forest, and 17 inches in the Yellowstone Park area. Gunnison CO, with a low of 19 degrees below zero, was the cold spot in the nation for the twelfth day in a row. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1990 - A Pacific cold front brought strong and gusty winds to the northwestern U.S. Winds in southeastern Idaho gusted to 62 mph at Burley. Strong winds also prevailed along the eastern slopes of the northern and central Rockies. Winds in Wyoming gusted to 74 mph in Goshen County. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

[psv88]

6 this morning. 

[milleand]

51 minutes ago, winterwarlock said:

We got about 4 which was better than most

 

Is today the anniversary  of a 20 inch storm from January 2016?

Yes it is. Here is the link to the thread for that storm. Was a fun one to track..

 

 

[SACRUS]

 

NYC

 

Jan 23. 2016 : 27.5 inches of snow

 

[SACRUS]

More on 2016

 

https://www.weather.gov/okx/Blizzard_Jan2016

[Allsnow]

I wouldn’t be shocked if NYC gets down into the single digits for lows between the 30-31st. The cold is coming in on a good angle for that locations. Reminds me of the late December shot before Christmas 

[weatherpruf]

27 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

More on 2016

 

https://www.weather.gov/okx/Blizzard_Jan2016

I remember Forky writing: this is a storm for the ages. I went out and bought gas for the snowblower. It was very warm that Dec and after that I think we had one piddly event. Saw nothing decent in my area until late March 2018; was fringed in the bomb cyclone, the 2017 March storm, and the two Early March 2018 storms. 

[SACRUS]

On 1/22/2025 at 9:30 AM, SACRUS said:

Current cold period departures

1/20

 

Current cold period departures

1/20

EWR: 28 / 16 (-10)
NYC: 26 / 17 (-11)
LGA: 28 / 18 (-11)
JFK: 29 / 19 (-8)
 

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1/21:

EWR: 20 / 7 (-18)
NYC: 19 / 11 (-18)
LGA: 20 / 13 (-17)
JFK: 20 / 14 (-15)

 

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1/22

EWR: 22/ 8 (-17)
NYC: 20 / 10 (-18)
LGA: 21 / 13 (-17)
JFK: 23 / 13 (-14)

 

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[LibertyBell]

14 hours ago, jm1220 said:

When the pattern turns back to cutters they'll come through like clockwork. They sure did in December.

hopefully they only last a month or two like last time and we go right back to sunny and dry.  We're in a much drier regime now than we were a few years ago.

[NorthShoreWx]

3 hours ago, WestBabylonWeather said:

My family in cork/Middleton still talking about the recent floods they had. 

Midleton is a nice area.  Stayed there a couple of days in 2018.  Walked around town but didn't visit the distillery.  Had a great day down in Ballycotton doing the cliff walk followed by some Guinness and lunch.  We were in Ireland during a rare legit heatwave and a bit of a drought, but some people we met were still talking about storm Emma (a rare blizzard) a few months earlier.  It was quite a weather year across Ireland.  We 2 weeks of sunshine and temps in the 80s.  Went to Kerry and dayhiked the Coomlaughra horseshoe in a teeshirt and shorts (carried storm gear just in case but didn't need so much as a windbreaker). The only cloudy and cooler day was when we went and found my grandmother's house up in Balinasloe  (Galway). Might go back later this year if I can swing it...not expecting the same weather ever again.

Back in Smithtown, we dipped down to 6⁰ this morning.  A couple of nearby spots a little lower lying got down to 4⁰.

 

 

[LibertyBell]

14 hours ago, weatherpruf said:

The vast majority of people hate it. I’ve been hearing nothing but complaints over the recent snow.

it's definitely hard to walk in especially when it gets icy.  It reminds me of my grade school days, I hated walking in the wind and cold and slip sliding around on my way to school in the morning.

It was much better when we had 2 feet of snow and everything was closed, of course that didn't happen much....

 

[WestBabylonWeather]

1 minute ago, NorthShoreWx said:

Midleton is a nice area.  Stayed there a couple of days in 2018.  Walked around town but didn't visit the distillery.  Had a great day down in Ballycotton doing the cliff walk followed by some Guinness and lunch.  We were in Ireland during a rare legit heatwave and a bit of a drought, but some people we met were still talking about storm Emma (a rare blizzard) a few months earlier.  It was quite a weather year across Ireland.  We 2 weeks of sunshine and temps in the 80s.  Went to Kerry and dayhiked the Coomlaughra horseshoe in a teeshirt and shorts (carried storm gear just in case but didn't need so much as a windbreaker). The only cloudy and cooler day was when we went and found my grandmother's house up in Balinasloe  (Galway). Might go back later this year if I can swing it...not expecting the same weather ever again.

We went in 2012 I think it was. Stayed at my cousins in Middleton. Went to the distillery. A drunk Irish guy grabbed me cause I tipped the bartender and they don’t do that lol 

 

we also had good and warm weather 

[LibertyBell]

16 hours ago, Roger Smith said:

A few odds and ends ... there already is a year zero in astronomical tables, but as stated in  an earlier post, not in historical time frames ... If you looked up an astronomical event listed as being in January, 4 BC, that event would be in 5 BC (or BCE as some say) if compared to any historical accounts. Of course, people alive then were not aware of the reason for numbering the year 1 A.D. as we do (and have done since about 450 A.D.), instead, if one were a citizen of the Roman empire, years would have been numbered from the founding of Rome, and if an observant Jew, even as today, from very ancient Biblical events (it was already a year in the 3000's). 

First calculations of the probable birth year of Jesus were off by about four years, so they identified "25 Dec of 1 B.C." as what by their logic was actually 25 Dec of 4 A.D. (an error crept into calculations of periods of rule of Roman emperors after Augustus Caesar). Also it is quite likely that Jesus was born not in late December but closer to end of February if we are to believe that sheperds were out in fields (to tend to newborn lambs in season). It is quite possible that the actual birth date of Jesus was something like Feb 25, 4 B.C. (or 5 B.C.) in a calendar that drops the year zero, or Feb 25, 3 B.C. (or 4 B.C.) set in the astronomical calendar system. 

... ...

On a different topic, at 0.45" at NYC, still 0.13" below driest January (1981), and at 30.4 F currently colder than final values of 101 of 155 previous Jans, and equal to one (1903). If we apply corrections for urban heat island, 2025 is presently colder than another 15 that, while colder in absolute terms, would likely be warmer if experienced with present urban heat island (using a rather conservative 2.0 F total correction applied in ten stages to data after 1881, and flat-lined since 1981).

If the month ends a bit colder at say 30.0 F, it will then rank t51 coldest of 156 (with 1923), and after applying u.h.i. corrections, at 28.0 F In pre-1881 no-heat-island comparison, ranking 39th coldest, just ahead of 1984 and 2015. So a fairly impressive cold January and it could end up near top two or three driest also, quite a similar outcome overall to 1963, 1970 and 1981 (rank colder by 2-3 F). 

I fully expect this month to end up at just under 29.5 degree average temp and UHI from my reading has about a 2.5 degree impact on our averages.

[LibertyBell]

16 hours ago, Allsnow said:

Gefs continue to trend stronger with the -epo to start February 

Great we can track indices instead of storms

 

[MANDA]

1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

More on 2016

 

https://www.weather.gov/okx/Blizzard_Jan2016

Great storm.  Epic!  Had 29" at my old location in southeast Morris County.

Seems CP measured good on this one!

[LibertyBell]

17 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

January 29, 1988: -21

Don it appears that Mt Pocono can be extremely cold regardless of whether NYC experiences extreme cold.  How did MPO do in 1985 and 1977 when NYC hit -2? Were those days not as extreme there?  Thanks!

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, MANDA said:

Great storm.  Epic!  Had 29" at my old location in southeast Morris County.

Seems CP measured good on this one!

an unusual storm in which Allentown and JFK both exceeded 30 inches!  Very similar to February 1983 in that respect.

 

[NorthShoreWx]

Nothing doing on land, but there's a hint of OES over eastern LI:

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/nexrad/?parms=OKX-N0Q-1-24-100-usa-rad

[IrishRob17]

1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

 

NYC

 

Jan 23. 2016 : 27.5 inches of snow

 

That map is way off in my neck of the woods. It has me on the line of 4-10 and 10-20...I had .4 on the board as a total. Just look at the satellite in comparison to this map. https://www.weather.gov/okx/Blizzard_Jan2016#:~:text=Central Park%2C NY received 27.5,since records began in 1869.

[LibertyBell]

52 minutes ago, weatherpruf said:

I remember Forky writing: this is a storm for the ages. I went out and bought gas for the snowblower. It was very warm that Dec and after that I think we had one piddly event. Saw nothing decent in my area until late March 2018; was fringed in the bomb cyclone, the 2017 March storm, and the two Early March 2018 storms. 

April 2018 was pretty good too

But January 2016 was the only 30 inch snowstorm I've ever seen.

[SACRUS]

5 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

That map is way off in my neck of the woods. It has me on the line of 4-10 and 10-20..had .4 on the board as a total. Just look at the satellite in comparison to this map. https://www.weather.gov/okx/Blizzard_Jan2016#:~:text=Central Park%2C NY received 27.5,since records began in 1869.

yea the nesis maps are too smoothed

 

these NWS are a bit better for this event

 

 

 

 

 

[cleetussnow]

Every thread is a banter thread until further notice I guess.  

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

 

NYC

 

Jan 23. 2016 : 27.5 inches of snow

 

This storm should be ranked higher than March 1960 and just below January 1996, I don't think they counted the 30"+ at JFK or Allentown.

[LibertyBell]

Just now, SACRUS said:

yea the nesis maps are too smoothed

 

these NWS are a bit better for this event

 

http://www.weather.gov/images/okx/Blizzard_Jan2016/Local_Obs_Snowfall.png

 

 

Not to mention that NESIS is inaccurate because they didn't count the 30+ amounts of JFK and Allentown, this storm was MUCH better than March 1960, which was ranked entirely too high.

 

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

yea the nesis maps are too smoothed

 

these NWS are a bit better for this event

 

http://www.weather.gov/images/okx/Blizzard_Jan2016/Local_Obs_Snowfall.png

 

 

can we recalculate NESIS based on these maps, Tony? I would argue for a thin stripe of 30-36 from Allentown to Queens to Nassau county.

 

[MANDA]

5 minutes ago, cleetussnow said:

Every thread is a banter thread until further notice I guess.  

Yep, free wheeling discussions for the next 7-10 days. 

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 62 (2018)
NYC: 63 (1874)
LGA: 62 (1967)
JFK: 56 (1967)


Lows:

EWR: -4 (1936)
NYC: -3 (1936)
LGA:  3 (1976)
JFK: 2 (1976)

 

Historical:

 

1780 - The coldest day of the coldest month of record in the northeastern U.S. A British Army thermometer in New York City registered a reading of 16 degrees below zero. During that infamous hard winter the harbor was frozen solid for five weeks, and the port was cut off from sea supply. (David Ludlum)

 

1916: Browning, Montana, saw the temperature plummet 100 degrees in 24 hours on January 23-24, from a relatively mild 44 to a bone-chilling 56 degrees below zero.

 

1969: An F4 tornado cut a 120-mile long path from Jefferson through Copiah, Simpson, Smith, Scott, and Newton Counties in Mississippi, killing 32 and injuring 241 others. Property damage was estimated at $2 million. An inbound Delta Airlines aircraft reported a hook echo on its scope with this storm.

1971 - The temperature at Prospect Creek, AK, plunged to 80 degrees below zero, the coldest reading of record for the United States. (David Ludlum)

 

1971: Alaska, and the US, lowest official temp, -80F (-62.2C), was set at Prospect Creek, a Trans-Alaska Oil Pipeline construction camp. Fun fact: the low was initially recorded as -79F but adjusted after thermometer calibration

1987 - Strong winds ushered bitterly cold air into the north central U.S., and produced snow squalls in the Great Lakes Region. Snowfall totals in northwest Lower Michigan ranged up to 17 inches in Leelanau County. Wind chill temperatures reached 70 degrees below zero at Sault Ste Marie MI and Hibbing MN. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Northeastern Colorado experienced its most severe windstorm in years. A wind gust to 92 mph was recorded at Boulder CO before the anenometer blew away, and in the mountains, a wind gust to 120 mph was reported at Mines Peak. The high winds blew down a partially constructed viaduct east of Boulder, as nine unanchored concrete girders, each weighing forty-five tons, were blown off their supports. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Low pressure brought heavy snow to Wyoming, with 18 inches reported at the Shoshone National Forest, and 17 inches in the Yellowstone Park area. Gunnison CO, with a low of 19 degrees below zero, was the cold spot in the nation for the twelfth day in a row. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1990 - A Pacific cold front brought strong and gusty winds to the northwestern U.S. Winds in southeastern Idaho gusted to 62 mph at Burley. Strong winds also prevailed along the eastern slopes of the northern and central Rockies. Winds in Wyoming gusted to 74 mph in Goshen County. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

Highs:

EWR: 62 (2018)
NYC: 63 (1874)
LGA: 62 (1967)
JFK: 56 (1967)


Lows:

EWR: -4 (1936)
NYC: -3 (1936)
LGA:  3 (1976)
JFK: 2 (1976)

 

Historical:

 

1780 - The coldest day of the coldest month of record in the northeastern U.S. A British Army thermometer in New York City registered a reading of 16 degrees below zero. During that infamous hard winter the harbor was frozen solid for five weeks, and the port was cut off from sea supply. (David Ludlum)

 

wow we went from -3 on this date in 1936 in NYC to 106 in July.....

it's also the anniversary of the actual coldest day on record in New York City.

[jm1220]

7 minutes ago, cleetussnow said:

Every thread is a banter thread until further notice I guess.  

When there’s something of interest to talk about besides more cold and dry you’ll see it.