EWR757 Posted yesterday at 03:20 PM Share Posted yesterday at 03:20 PM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted yesterday at 04:15 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:15 PM 39 / 30 here 11 EWR: 40 NYC: 39 LGA: 40 JFK: 42 New brnsck: 39 TTN: 35 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted yesterday at 04:26 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:26 PM 1 hour ago, bluewave said: February is the one month with La Ninas when it becomes a challenge to subdue the tendency for more of a Southeast Ridge. Even during the much colder era in the 70s and 80s this was the case. So we need to do the best we can the rest of this month before that starts becoming a factor. What's the reason it happens in February, Chris? I noticed that during that colder era it would often flip back to colder again in March. Is there something about February that makes it so different from both January and March? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted yesterday at 04:48 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:48 PM Down to 38 here from 41 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted yesterday at 05:13 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:13 PM Slow that kicker down we probably get hit with a storm Friday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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qg_omega Posted yesterday at 07:36 PM Share Posted yesterday at 07:36 PM What happened to the historic cold? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted yesterday at 07:46 PM Share Posted yesterday at 07:46 PM On 1/7/2025 at 10:50 AM, LibertyBell said: What I like about the late 80s and early 90s is we had a solar maximum in 1991 I think it was and 1990 and 1991 were, at the time, two of NYC's warmest years on record (22 out of 24 months above normal.) We have a solar maximum right now, I wonder how that has influenced this winter and the last 2 paltry winters we've had. I love the solar maximum for being able to see the Northern Lights for the first time in my life, but it's not that great for snowfall. Furthermore, there may be a lag effect meaning the next two winters may not be that good either. This solar maximum effect is looking to be little more than hocus-pocus at this point, no? This has been the coldest winter in years and, given the forecast, looks like it has a decent chance of being the coldest winter since, well, the last solar maximum. The last cycle peaked in 2014 and was bookended by some of the coldest winters in decades (2013-2014, 2014-2015). Maybe there's a small global warming attributable to solar maxima, but the link between solar maxima and warm/mild mid-latitude winters seems to be tenuous at best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted yesterday at 07:50 PM Share Posted yesterday at 07:50 PM 2 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: This solar maximum effect is looking to be little more than hocus-pocus at this point, no? This has been the coldest winter in years and, given the forecast, looks like it has a decent chance of being the coldest winter since, well, the last solar maximum. The last cycle peaked in 2014 and was bookended by some of the coldest winters in decades (2013-2014, 2014-2015). Maybe there's a small global warming attributable to solar maxima, but the link between solar maxima and warm/mild mid-latitude winters seems to be tenuous at best. Maybe it just doesn't have as much of an effect as other factors. In 2013-14 and 2014-15 we had a -EPO and we have one now too. Those years had much more snow and cold than this year though so maybe without the solar maximum this winter would have been even colder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago Moderate to heavy snow has been falling in eastern Pennsylvania late this afternoon. Some early accumulations include: Nazareth: 3.4" New Hanover TWP 3.4" Spring TWP: 3.8" The biggest snowstorm in nearly three years at Central Park will begin to blanket the New York City area this evening. The snow will fall moderately to heavily at times during the first half of tonight. New York City will likely see its heaviest snow during the 6:30 pm - 9:30 pm period where visibility could be reduced to 1/4-mile or less. The storm will likely bring a general 3"-6" snowfall from Philadelphia to New York City with a stripe of 4"-8" amounts to the north and west of this region and also in parts of southern New England. Final snowfall estimates: Allentown: 4"-8" Baltimore: 2"-4" Boston: 4"-8" Islip: 2"-4" New York City: 3"-6" Newark: 3"-6" Philadelphia: 3"-6" Washington, DC: 1"-3" In the wake of the storm, January will see its first genuine Arctic air mass. From tomorrow through Thursday, it is likely that New York City will experience its coldest weather this winter. Temperatures could fall into the single digits for lows in New York City, Philadelphia, and perhaps even Washington, DC. The last single-digit lows were as follows: Baltimore: December 24, 2022 (6°) Boston: February 4, 2023 (-10°) New York City: February 4, 2023 (3°) Newark: February 4, 2023 (5°) Philadelphia: December 24, 2022 (7°) Washington, DC: December 24, 2022 (9°) Highs could reach no higher than the teens in New York City and perhaps Philadelphia during the peak of the cold. The last time both cities had high temperatures in the teens was: New York City: December 24, 2022 (15°) Philadelphia: December 24, 2022 (18°) There is a chance that New York City could see two consecutive highs in the teens for the first time since January 6-7, 2018 when the highs were 13° and 18° respectively. New York City and Philadelphia could also be grazed by a storm tracking well south and east of the region from Tuesday into Thursday. That storm has the potential to bring measurable snowfall to Atlanta, Charleston, Norfolk, and Wilmington, NC. The last time that happened was during what became known as the Boxing Day Blizzard of December 25-27, 2010. Parts of the Southeast could see a significant snow, sleet, and ice event from this storm. Tallahassee could see its first snowfall since January 3, 2018 when 0.1" fell. New Orleans could see its first measurable snowfall since December 4, 2009. The last storm that brought measurable snowfall to both New Orleans and Tallahassee occurred on February 9-10, 1973. The AO went negative yesterday. With the AO forecast to become predominantly positive after January 24th, prospects for a 6" or above snowstorm in the New York City and Philadelphia areas could become limited after January 24th. Opportunities for a 6" or above snowstorm would likely persist for parts of southern New England, including Boston, through January. Moderation is possible during the last week of January or the opening of February. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.3°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.7°C for the week centered around January 8. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.02°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.70°C. La Niña conditions are underway and will likely persist into the start of spring. The SOI was +6.13 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -0.570 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 99% probability that New York City will have a colder than normal January (1991-2020 normal). January will likely finish with a mean temperature near 29.5° (4.4° below normal). 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 8 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: Moderate to heavy snow has been falling in eastern Pennsylvania late this afternoon. Some early accumulations include: Nazareth: 3.4" New Hanover TWP 3.4" Spring TWP: 3.8" The biggest snowstorm in nearly three years at Central Park will begin to blanket the New York City area this evening. The snow will fall moderately to heavily at times during the first half of tonight. New York City will likely see its heaviest snow during the 6:30 pm - 9:30 pm period where visibility could be reduced to 1/4-mile or less. The storm will likely bring a general 3"-6" snowfall from Philadelphia to New York City with a stripe of 4"-8" amounts to the north and west of this region and also in parts of southern New England. Final snowfall estimates: Allentown: 4"-8" Baltimore: 2"-4" Boston: 4"-8" Islip: 2"-4" New York City: 3"-6" Newark: 3"-6" Philadelphia: 3"-6" Washington, DC: 1"-3" In the wake of the storm, January will see its first genuine Arctic air mass. From tomorrow through Thursday, it is likely that New York City will experience its coldest weather this winter. Temperatures could fall into the single digits for lows in New York City, Philadelphia, and perhaps even Washington, DC. The last single-digit lows were as follows: Baltimore: December 24, 2022 (6°) Boston: February 4, 2023 (-10°) New York City: February 4, 2023 (3°) Newark: February 4, 2023 (5°) Philadelphia: December 24, 2022 (7°) Washington, DC: December 24, 2022 (9°) Highs could reach no higher than the teens in New York City and perhaps Philadelphia during the peak of the cold. The last time both cities had high temperatures in the teens was: New York City: December 24, 2022 (15°) Philadelphia: December 24, 2022 (18°) There is a chance that New York City could see two consecutive highs in the teens for the first time since January 6-7, 2018 when the highs were 13° and 18° respectively. New York City and Philadelphia could also be grazed by a storm tracking well south and east of the region from Tuesday into Thursday. That storm has the potential to bring measurable snowfall to Atlanta, Charleston, Norfolk, and Wilmington, NC. The last time that happened was during what became known as the Boxing Day Blizzard of December 25-27, 2010. Parts of the Southeast could see a significant snow, sleet, and ice event from this storm. Tallahassee could see its first snowfall since January 3, 2018 when 0.1" fell. New Orleans could see its first measurable snowfall since December 4, 2009. The last storm that brought measurable snowfall to both New Orleans and Tallahassee occurred on February 9-10, 1973. The AO went negative yesterday. With the AO forecast to become predominantly positive after January 24th, prospects for a 6" or above snowstorm in the New York City and Philadelphia areas could become limited after January 24th. Opportunities for a 6" or above snowstorm would likely persist for parts of southern New England, including Boston, through January. Moderation is possible during the last week of January or the opening of February. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.3°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.7°C for the week centered around January 8. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.02°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.70°C. La Niña conditions are underway and will likely persist into the start of spring. The SOI was +6.13 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -0.570 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 99% probability that New York City will have a colder than normal January (1991-2020 normal). January will likely finish with a mean temperature near 29.5° (4.4° below normal). wow the bottom really fell out of the predicted average, Don, now down to 29.5! When was the last time we had a monthly mean below 29.5, Don? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago Ya don't see stuff like this all that often. Certainly the most extensive Winter Weather Advisories, Watches and Warnings we've seen in a long time. That I-10 corridor is going to be crippled for days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 30 minutes ago, MANDA said: Ya don't see stuff like this all that often. Certainly the most extensive Winter Weather Advisories, Watches and Warnings we've seen in a long time. That I-10 corridor is going to be crippled for days. One of the heaviest since the Valentines day 1895 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago All these small events are nice and all but man would I love another KU, it's been years. I really think the right storm could deliver record snows given warm ssts, dynamics, more precip. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 1 hour ago, MANDA said: Ya don't see stuff like this all that often. Certainly the most extensive Winter Weather Advisories, Watches and Warnings we've seen in a long time. That I-10 corridor is going to be crippled for days. Can't even imagine. They don't have the equipment down there or the experience to deal with an inch of snow much less 6"+. Any amount of snow/ice there pretty much shuts a city down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago This was not a warning level event for me. Looks like we are going to finish around 3.5-4 inches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Looking good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago No further threads for storms. Looking at the 24th since many members at 5H are much sharper and concerning about 5H troughing down into the Virginias but for now, no thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago On 1/12/2025 at 8:09 AM, donsutherland1 said: The week ahead: The final outcome: It should be noted that Boston received a storm total 5.0" snowfall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 11 hours ago, SnoSki14 said: All these small events are nice and all but man would I love another KU, it's been years. I really think the right storm could deliver record snows given warm ssts, dynamics, more precip. Yeah, these cuttter, hugger, and suppressed southern stream storm tracks have really dominated since 18-19. Leaves very little room for a big KU to rapidly deepen out near the benchmark. The one exception was 20-21 for NYC into NJ and 22 which favored points east of NYC. That’s why I continue to stand by my observation that for NYC to get to 25” or greater on any season they will need to see the BM KU storm track return. Since we aren’t cold enough to get to average with a collection of small to moderate events like was the case during several years in the 1970s and 1980s. It was amazing how many historic BM KUs we had from 09-10 to 17-18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 11 hours ago, SnoSki14 said: All these small events are nice and all but man would I love another KU, it's been years. I really think the right storm could deliver record snows given warm ssts, dynamics, more precip. i mean, it should take years between each KU. we've been spoiled with one every 1-2 years 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, wdrag said: No further threads for storms. Looking at the 24th since many members at 5H are much sharper and concerning about 5H troughing down into the Virginias but for now, no thread. IMO starting next week there will be more opportunities as the pattern relaxes and the southern stream will be allowed to trend further north to interact with the constant Arctic outbreaks and the last week of January through the first half of February are historically "Prime Time" for snowstorms around here -IMO there will be enough cold air around to support this.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 19 / 7 with 3.2 inches of snow and off a low of 14. Cold work week, coldest readings of the season and cold departures - records look safe. Looks dry with suppressed look and overall cold through Friday. Slight moderation (26th, 29/30) with cold nearby otherwise through the end of the month. Perhaps moderation to a more sustained warmup post Groundhogs day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Records: Highs: EWR: 62 (2006) NYC: 62 (1951) LGA: 61 (2006) JFK: 56 (2013) Lows: EWR: -3 (1985) NYC: 0 (1994) LGA: 0 (1994) JFK: 3 (1994) Historical: 1863: The famous "Mud March" begins in the Fredericksburg area of Virginia. 1883: Yuma, Arizona, sets its all-time record low of 22 degrees. The record is tied in 1911 and again in 1937. 1937 - The wettest Inaugural Day of record with 1.77 inches of rain in 24 hours. Temperatures were only in the 30s as Franklin D. Roosevelt was sworm in for his second term. (David Ludlum) 1933: Phoenix, Arizona, receives light snow between 7:55 pm and 9:25 pm 1943 - Strange vertical antics took place in the Black Hills of South Dakota. While the temperature at Deadwood was a frigid 16 degrees below zero, the town of Lead, just a mile and a half away, but 600 feet higher in elevation, reported a balmy 52 degree reading. (David Ludlum) 1954 - The temperature at Rogers Pass, MT, plunged to 70 degrees below zero to establish a new record for the continental U.S. (David Ludlum) 1978 - A paralyzing "Nor'easter" produced a record 21 inches of snow at Boston, 15 to 20 inches in Rhode Island, and one to two feet of snow in Pennsylvania. Winds along the coast of Connecticut gusted to 70 mph. (David Ludlum) 1987 - Gale force winds lingered along the northern Atlantic coast in the wake of a holiday weekend storm. High winds along the eastern slopes of the Northern Rockies gusted to 67 mph at Livingston MT, and high winds in southern California gusted to 70 mph near San Bernardino. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - A storm in the Upper Midwest produced heavy snow and gale force winds. Up to 27.5 inches of snow was reported along the Lake Superior shoreline of Michigan, with 22 inches at Marquette. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1989 - The temperature in the Washington D.C. area warmed into the lower 50s for the Presidential Inauguration during the late morning hours, before gusty northwest winds ushered in colder air that afternoon. (National Weather Summary) 1990 - While heavy thunderstorm rains drenched the Central Gulf Coast States, with 4.23 inches reported at Centreville AL in 24 hours, unseasonably warm weather continued across Florida. Five cities in Florida reported record high temperatures for the date. Tampa FL equalled their record high for January of 85 degrees. (National Weather Summary) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Cold nearby SE ridge building and expanding (most notably on the GFC and Canadian) , the battle zone and perhaps and active pattern once to the 28th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Cold pressing in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWR757 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Regarding the storm on January 19th, the liquid equiv. precipitation amounts on Cocorahs across the area seem to fall into line with the consensus model predictions, but along the coast snowfall amounts tended to be less than forecast. I think this was likely due to the warm boundary layer and melting snow/mixed precip/rain during the initial part of the event. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago https://abc7ny.com/post/winter-storm-11925-snowfall-totals-ny-nj-ct/15818586/ Central Park: 1.6 inches Midtown, Manhattan: 1.8 inches John F. Kennedy International Airport: 2.2 inches LaGuardia Airport: 3.6 inches Elizabeth 3.7 in Newark Airport 2.4 in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 32 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: IMO starting next week there will be more opportunities as the pattern relaxes and the southern stream will be allowed to trend further north to interact with the constant Arctic outbreaks and the last week of January through the first half of February are historically "Prime Time" for snowstorms around here -IMO there will be enough cold air around to support this.......... Yeah I think we're done for a week but euro and gfs both have something early next week with borderline temps. Or possibly later in the week. Would be nice to have my seasonal totals over a foot heading into February Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, brooklynwx99 said: i mean, it should take years between each KU. we've been spoiled with one every 1-2 years Yep I believe it was only 6 KUs in 30 years from 1970 to 1999. We've had one KU in the last six Winters so really on Target. We just have to wait for the fast flow to slow down/jet retract. Maybe next year maybe later this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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