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Interesting development on the 12z GFS and CMC. Both models suits now have a great lakes low much further south than last runs. Wouldn't take much to get further south. Instead of one low with the precipitation going in the Canada, the initial wave in Canada is much weaker and the follow-up wave stronger. Next runs will be very interesting. 

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Just now, SnoSki14 said:

GFS blew major chunks with its "storm" depiction for Friday night. 

I'll take the other models over it

yeah was gonna say it hasn't been very reliable with storms this year in particular. so lets just wait and see how this pans out. i do have a feeling this is probs our best window of opportunity so lets just hope we can score the 4+

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3 hours ago, bluewave said:

New Brunswick is +0.2 for January so far with the warmer minimums and cooler maximums.

 

Climatological Data for New Brunswick Area, NJ (ThreadEx) - January 2025
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Sum 425 293 - - 354 0 0.84 1.5 -
Average 38.6 26.6 32.6 0.2 - - - - 0.3
Normal 40.8 24.0 32.4 - 359 0 1.35 2.5
2025-01-01 56 39 47.5 14.3 17 0 0.24 0.0 0
2025-01-02 49 35 42.0 9.0 23 0 0.00 0.0 0
2025-01-03 44 30 37.0 4.1 28 0 0.00 0.0 0
2025-01-04 38 28 33.0 0.3 32 0 0.00 0.0 0
2025-01-05 34 25 29.5 -3.0 35 0 0.00 0.0 0
2025-01-06 34 26 30.0 -2.4 35 0 0.00 0.0 0
2025-01-07 30 18 24.0 -8.2 41 0 0.10 1.0 1
2025-01-08 34 23 28.5 -3.6 36 0 0.00 0.0 1
2025-01-09 31 20 25.5 -6.5 39 0 0.00 0.0 0
2025-01-10 35 23 29.0 -2.8 36 0 0.00 0.0 0
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Interesting since TTN (Trenton) is -3.0 for the month so far. 
[TEMPERATURE DATA]
AVERAGE MONTHLY: 29.4
DPTR FM NORMAL:  -3.0

and that site only had 2 AN days on the 1st and 2nd. 

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1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

But we are also cycling backs to a drier period as the historic all time dryness October-mid November period showed.  I strongly suspect we will get another period like that this year, likely in the early part of the summer this time.

Perhaps, but the long-term trend still favors wetter years. There will be internal variability on a year-to-year basis. Drier cycles will probably be wetter than they were in the past, though stuck patterns such as what occurred in October may also increase in frequency.

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

Don, is this why no one ever talked about the EPO before the early 2010s?

 

I suspect that the difficulty using it for forecasting purposes likely precluded much discussion. There is literature that goes back to the 1980s that I'm aware of. I suspect improvement in modeling resolution, better understanding of ocean-atmosphere dynamics (including second order effects), and AI/ML may add to forecasting skill over the next decade or so. But there may still be real limits on forecasting capacity beyond 15 days even then.

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26 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The lack of good radiational cooling so far this month is keeping the outlying areas departures warmer than the urban areas.


POU…+1.6

HPN…+0.1

ISP…..+0.1

JFK…+0.6

BDR….0.0

SMQ…+0.2

EWR…-0.6

LGA….-2.3

NYC….-2.6

New Brunswick…+0.2

 

 

wind. lots of it

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36 minutes ago, mcwx said:


Interesting since TTN (Trenton) is -3.0 for the month so far. 
[TEMPERATURE DATA]
AVERAGE MONTHLY: 29.4
DPTR FM NORMAL:  -3.0

and that site only had 2 AN days on the 1st and 2nd. 

it's weird also because somehow JFK is a little above normal and NYC and LGA are both way below normal.

There has been zero ocean influence this year so no idea what's going on.

I want to see the actual averages for all these locations to be compared directly, rather than  just these departures from average.

 

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35 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

it's weird also because somehow JFK is a little above normal and NYC and LGA are both way below normal.

There has been zero ocean influence this year so no idea what's going on.

I want to see the actual averages for all these locations to be compared directly, rather than  just these departures from average.

 

Through January 11th, every high and low at JFK has been above that at Central Park.

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2 hours ago, mcwx said:


Interesting since TTN (Trenton) is -3.0 for the month so far. 
[TEMPERATURE DATA]
AVERAGE MONTHLY: 29.4
DPTR FM NORMAL:  -3.0

and that site only had 2 AN days on the 1st and 2nd. 

Areas just to the south are colder so far this month since the flow isn’t coming directly off the warmer Great Lakes.

 

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18 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Areas just to the south are colder so far this month since the flow isn’t coming directly off the warmer Great Lakes.

 

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Lakes and Hudson Bay have to be freezing over some by this point though, no?  If yes, then a discharge similar to last week’s would probably be a touch colder in terms of sensible weather, right?

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44 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Areas just to the south are colder so far this month since the flow isn’t coming directly off the warmer Great Lakes.

 

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if the great lakes are so much warmer, shouldn't they be dumping a ton of snow in the lake effect belts and wouldn't the flow off all that snow cover make us much colder?

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