Stormlover74 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:17 PM, brooklynwx99 said: yes, whining about rainy day 10 OP runs is grounded and realistic Expand Posting about a rainstorm that's showing up on multiple models is less realistic than posting about some fantasy snowstorm? Why can't we just talk about weather without hyping anything? The reality is that it hasn't snowed much this month and likely won't for at least another 10 days. Oh wait I forgot we have flurries tomorrow morning to get excited about 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 4:28 PM, psv88 said: I hear it’s going to be part of New Jersey soon Expand They can't afford the property taxes. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 4:30 PM, NEG NAO said: Bad idea especially during inclement weather - you want your kid leaving for school at 7 am in the dark ? Expand When I began teaching in the late 80s there were a lot of mid career teachers who had been working when they kept daylight savings time in the early 70s to save on energy ( IIRC ). One told me they'd sit there in first period and watch the sunrise....no one liked it one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:20 PM, Stormlover74 said: Posting about a rainstorm that's showing up on multiple models is less realistic than posting about some fantasy snowstorm? Why can't we just talk about weather without hyping anything? The reality is that it hasn't snowed much this month and likely won't for at least another 10 days. Oh wait I forgot we have flurries tomorrow morning to get excited about Expand Buckle up 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:23 PM, Allsnow said: Buckle up Expand I'll get out my rainboots 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:19 PM, Allsnow said: This winter sucked all the pretty h5 maps have failed to produce anything Expand i mean DC got its 4th largest snowstorm this decade. just crappy luck that a TPV lobe moved to our north. the main threat area was NYC to RIC and it was the southern half of that envelope 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:20 PM, Stormlover74 said: Posting about a rainstorm that's showing up on multiple models is less realistic than posting about some fantasy snowstorm? Why can't we just talk about weather without hyping anything? The reality is that it hasn't snowed much this month and likely won't for at least another 10 days. Oh wait I forgot we have flurries tomorrow morning to get excited about Expand acknowledging that the upcoming pattern is cold and active isn’t hype at all. maybe we have to endure a little rain. not a huge deal and it isn’t indicative of the pattern not being conducive for snow also, neither are realistic. i don’t think any of you have seen me posting long range OP runs regardless of the outcome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 4:30 PM, psv88 said: Noting like watching Atlanta and Little Rock cleaning up while we have bare ground. This is becoming one of my least favorite winters ever Expand Yep. At least in the last 2 failed winters it was bearable to be outside. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 4:57 PM, brooklynwx99 said: this is the saddest internet forum on earth Expand It was the happiest from 2009-2016 when we had all the snowstorms and cold. Been warm and mostly snowless since then...20-21 notwithstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:07 PM, Stormlover74 said: It's even worse today with much of the south blanketed Expand Nature has a twisted sense of humor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:27 PM, brooklynwx99 said: acknowledging that the upcoming pattern is cold and active isn’t hype at all. maybe we have to endure a little rain. not a huge deal and it isn’t indicative of the pattern not being conducive for snow also, neither are realistic. i don’t think any of you have seen me posting long range OP runs regardless of the outcome Expand Why isn't it realistic that it would rain during a period of moderation? All 3 models have shown a similar solution which is now about 8 days away If there are signs that is changing and we could get snow instead I'll post that too 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:27 PM, brooklynwx99 said: acknowledging that the upcoming pattern is cold and active isn’t hype at all. maybe we have to endure a little rain. not a huge deal and it isn’t indicative of the pattern not being conducive for snow Expand try and make sense out of this: Winters around here are impossible to predict snowfall in advance monthlyseasonalsnowfall.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:30 PM, Stormlover74 said: Why isn't it realistic that it would rain during a period of moderation? All 3 models have shown a similar solution which is now about 8 days away Expand i mean, the angst over it is a bit much considering that the initial wave likely drags the baroclinic zone south. that’s common in these -EPO patterns. a two day warmup and a little rain before a potential colder storm isn’t an indictment on a pattern that does look cold and legitimately active who knows, that initial wave could also trend flatter. it’s 8 days out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:19 PM, Allsnow said: This winter sucked all the pretty h5 maps have failed to produce anything Expand It's January 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:20 PM, Stormlover74 said: Posting about a rainstorm that's showing up on multiple models is less realistic than posting about some fantasy snowstorm? Why can't we just talk about weather without hyping anything? The reality is that it hasn't snowed much this month and likely won't for at least another 10 days. Oh wait I forgot we have flurries tomorrow morning to get excited about Expand Dusting to an inch I guess all of you aren't snow weenies. I get excited over an inch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:38 PM, MJO812 said: It's January 10 Expand Where are all your buddies that were hyping this pattern? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:40 PM, Allsnow said: Where are all your buddies that were hyping this pattern? Expand They still think we will be fine I mean something has to pop with all this cold air around . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 4:30 PM, NEG NAO said: Bad idea especially during inclement weather - you want your kid leaving for school at 7 am in the dark ? Expand school shouldn't even start before 9 am 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:41 PM, MJO812 said: They still think we will be fine I mean something has to pop with all this cold air around . Expand Not necessarily. Some years the pattern just gets stuck. I'd like to see a reshuffle at this point even if it means warmer temps-can't have snow without any precip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 4:32 PM, SACRUS said: Yes remember well. Perhaps just keep it the way it is. Its dark for the early highschool busses already from 545 - 720. Its the younger grades that are impacted between 730 and 8 if remaining on DST. Expand No, we should also pass a law that bans any school from starting before 9 am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:44 PM, LibertyBell said: school shouldn't even start before 9 am Expand This is true for older students, who actually need more rest. Younger kids can start earlier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:44 PM, Brian5671 said: Not necessarily. Some years the pattern just gets stuck. I'd like to see a reshuffle at this point even if it means warmer temps-can't have snow without any precip. Expand We need a reshuffle of the Pacific. Pdo needs to go positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 4:35 PM, Brian5671 said: my sons are in high school and they walk to the bus in the dark at 6:55am. Couldn't imagine the younger kids doing that. We don't run busses for 1/2 of an inch of snow I can't imagine younger kids going 3 months in the dark Expand see I blame the school for this, no self respecting school would begin that early. School should be from 9 am to 4 pm that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 SIL just sent me pics of it snowing in Kennesaw GA. In my anecdotal experience, when the South gets good snows, it's usually a dud winter around here. 2002 comes to mind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:45 PM, weatherpruf said: This is true for older students, who actually need more rest. Younger kids can start earlier. Expand I was so cranky for those early morning classes and always late. I told them no way no how you are getting me to come to school this early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:46 PM, weatherpruf said: SIL just sent me pics of it snowing in Kennesaw GA. In my anecdotal experience, when the South gets good snows, it's usually a dud winter around here. 2002 comes to mind. Expand Yes and 1973 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 For historical reference: NYC's coldest winter with less than 10.0" seasonal snowfall. Winter 1900-01: DJF mean temperature: 31.9°; Seasonal snowfall: 9.1" 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:45 PM, LibertyBell said: see I blame the school for this, no self respecting school would begin that early. School should be from 9 am to 4 pm that's it. Expand Agreed but you have elementary, middle and high school...staggered start times are needed for busses. The town would have to triple its bus fleet to start everyone at 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:48 PM, donsutherland1 said: For historical reference: NYC's coldest winter with less than 10.0" seasonal snowfall. Winter 1900-01: DJF mean temperature: 31.9°; Seasonal snowfall: 9.1" Expand Outstanding Don! What about since 1970, Don? What about NYC's coldest month with less than 3 inches of snow, Don? (and since 1970?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/10/2025 at 5:45 PM, LibertyBell said: see I blame the school for this, no self respecting school would begin that early. School should be from 9 am to 4 pm that's it. Expand On 1/10/2025 at 5:49 PM, Brian5671 said: Agreed but you have elementary, middle and high school...staggered start times are needed for busses. The town would have to triple its bus fleet to start everyone at 9 Expand and triple the amount of school bus drivers - plus how are school crossing guards going to deal with working in the dark ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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