January 2025

[bluewave]

1 hour ago, EastonSN+ said:

One constant this winter so far has definitely been the negative EPO. 

But it has underperformed relative to model forecasts. The strongest teleconnection so far had been the +PNA. But it’s possible the -EPO after the 20th will be the lowest of the winter so far.

https://downloads.psl.noaa.gov/Public/map/teleconnections/epo.reanalysis.t10trunc.1948-present.txt

 

2024 12 01  -43.78
2024 12 02  -14.50
2024 12 03  -35.60
2024 12 04  -34.12
2024 12 05  -14.08
2024 12 06   28.23
2024 12 07   49.16
2024 12 08  -27.22
2024 12 09 -137.55
2024 12 10 -149.44
2024 12 11  -49.79
2024 12 12   35.08
2024 12 13   64.11
2024 12 14   70.96
2024 12 15  -21.55
2024 12 16  -72.62
2024 12 17  -59.81
2024 12 18  -48.59
2024 12 19  -98.46
2024 12 20  -88.76
2024 12 21   -9.80
2024 12 22   99.09
2024 12 23  112.77
2024 12 24  186.45
2024 12 25  280.91
2024 12 26  310.29
2024 12 27  225.40
2024 12 28  135.47
2024 12 29   75.67
2024 12 30   11.94
2024 12 31  -48.65
2025 01 01  -42.88
2025 01 02  -66.19
2025 01 03  -18.87
2025 01 04   83.75
2025 01 05   65.62
2025 01 06  -11.42
2025 01 07    0.43

[SACRUS]

 

The Sunshine Bill has been reintroduced.  This bill would allow states (like AZ) to decide to participate in DST and others to remain on DST.

 

https://www.rickscott.senate.gov/2025/1/sen-rick-scott-leads-bipartisan-bill-to-lock-the-clock

 

I had thought that there was movement to end DST but havet seen any counter bills only this D.ST permanent bill.  States like NY and NJ would likely follow the federal guidance and change clocks ahead and then stay on DS

[wdrag]

All I see in all ensembles is the storm track se USA off the mid Atlantic coast with us on the northern fringes with normal qpf.  I think we're in the ball game for periods of wintry hazards 19th for a week or more... fast movers-maybe rain LI-I always have to leave that rain option open-not ideal snow pattern for LI but it is the coldest time the year upcoming-climatologically.  No super snowstorms but fun light-moderate opportunities.  Either the GEFS or EPS are going to have change in the next few days on advertised ensemble snowfall.

I like the idea of big cold shot but not sure it can stay long.  What I'm sure of is action 19th-22nd with the potential big cold shot in the central USA and warmth nearby off the e Coast,. 

 

 

[bluewave]

I agree that this looks like the Arctic shot will probably be a 5-7 day window. Then the GEFS and EPS weeklies follow the milder La Nina seasonal progression as we head into February. So hopefully we can put together some wintery events during that brief window of opportunity. 
 

 

[psv88]

I’m ready for spring 

[LibertyBell]

19 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

The Sunshine Bill has been reintroduced.  This bill would allow states (like AZ) to decide to participate in DST and others to remain on DST.

 

https://www.rickscott.senate.gov/2025/1/sen-rick-scott-leads-bipartisan-bill-to-lock-the-clock

 

I had thought that there was movement to end DST but havet seen any counter bills only this D.ST permanent bill.  States like NY and NJ would likely follow the federal guidance and change clocks ahead and then stay on DS

Looks like permanent DST will become a reality.... this year?

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, bluewave said:

I agree that this looks like the Arctic shot will probably be a 5-7 day window. Then the GEFS and EPS weeklies follow the milder La Nina seasonal progression as we head into February. So hopefully we can put together some wintery events during that brief window of opportunity. 
 

 

and then back to snowy in March? That happens in la ninas too.

[LibertyBell]

12 minutes ago, wdrag said:

All I see in all ensembles is the storm track se USA off the mid Atlantic coast with us on the northern fringes with normal qpf.  I think we're in the ball game for periods of wintry hazards 19th for a week or more... fast movers-maybe rain LI-I always have to leave that rain option open-not ideal snow pattern for LI but it is the coldest time the year upcoming-climatologically.  No super snowstorms but fun light-moderate opportunities.  Either the GEFS or EPS are going to have change in the next few days on advertised ensemble snowfall.

I like the idea of big cold shot but not sure it can stay long.  What I'm sure of is action 19th-22nd with the potential big cold shot in the central USA and warmth nearby off the e Coast,. 

 

 

well if we are on the northern fringe, it will snow on Long Island too.

[LibertyBell]

30 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

38 with sun and light winds today will feel great 

indeed,  I can do without these useless winds.

[FPizz]

6 minutes ago, psv88 said:

I’m ready for spring 

Bluewave says Jan thaw next weekend, so get ready!

[LibertyBell]

47 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

NYC

Jan 10 - 11,  1954: 8.5 inches of snow falls over 48 hours

old fashioned long duration snowstorm, did it stall offshore or loop around, Tony?

[LibertyBell]

38 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

old period daily dep:

 

Jan 4

EWR: 36 / 28 (-2)
NYC: 33 / 28 (-4)
LGA: 34 / 29 (-4)
JFK: 37 / 30 (0 E)

 

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Jan 5:

EWR: 36 / 28 (-2)
NYC: 33 / 28 (-4)
LGA: 34 / 28 (-4)
JFK: 37 / 29 (-1)

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Jan 6:

EWR:   31 / 22 (-6)
NYC: 30 / 22 (-8)
LGA:  33 / 23 (-7)
JFK: 33 / 24 (-5)

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Jan 7

EWR: 35 / 19 (-6)
NYC: 33 / 19 (-8)
LGA: 34 / 20 (-8)
JFK: 36 / 20 (-6)

 

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Jan 8

EWR: 32 / 22 (-6)
NYC: 30 / 23 (-7)
LGA: 31 / 24 (-7)
JFK: 33 / 24 (-4)

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Jan 9

 

EWR: 36 / 22 (-4)
NYC: 33 / 22 (-6)
LGA: 34 / 24 (-6)
JFK: 37 / 24 (-2)

 

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ha JFK didn't even have a freezing or below day....

[LibertyBell]

50 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 65 (2016)
NYC: 60 (1876)
LGA: 59 (2016)
JFK: 58 (2016)


Lows:

EWR: 0 (1982)
NYC" -3 (1875)
LGA: 2 (2004)
JFK: 2 (2004)

Historical:

1800 - Savannah, GA, received a foot and a half of snow, and ten inches blanketed Charleston SC. It was the heaviest snowfall of record for the immediate Coastal Plain of the southeastern U.S. (David Ludlum)

 

1800: According to David Ludlum, Savannah, Georgia, received a foot and a half of snow and ten inches blanketed Charleston, SC. It was the heaviest snowfall of record for the immediate Coastal Plain of the southeastern U.S.

1911 - The temperature at Rapid City, SD, plunged 47 degrees in just fifteen minutes. (The Weather Channel)

1949 - Snow was reported at San Diego, CA, for the first and only time since 1882. Snow was noted even on some of the beaches in parts of the Los Angeles metropolitan area. Burbank reported 4.7 inches, and Long Beach and Laguna Beach received one inch of snow. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

1949: Snow was reported in San Diego, California, for the first time since 1882. The snow was noted on some of the beaches in parts of the Los Angeles metropolitan area.

1975 - The "Storm of the Century" hit Minnesota. A severe blizzard moved northward across the state producing up to two feet of snow. High winds drove wind chill readings to 80 degrees below zero, and at Duluth MN the barometric pressure dipped to 28.55 inches. The storm, which claimed 35 lives, occurred on the 102nd anniversary of the infamous "Pioneer Blizzard" in Minnesota. (David Ludlum)

1982 - The temperature at O'Hare Airport in Chicago, IL, plunged to an all-time record of 26 degrees below zero, and high winds drove the wind chill reading to 77 degrees below zero. The temperaturein Downtown Chicago reached 23 degrees below zero. A week later a second arctic surge sent the temperature plunging back down to 25 degrees below zero. (Weather Channel) (National Weather Summary)

1982: Bitterly cold weather was found across Illinois. Of the 109 weather reporting stations in the state, 48 of those reported lows of 20 degrees below zero or colder. Some of the most frigid temperatures included 27 below zero at Rockford, 26 below zero at Chicago, and 25 below zero at Kankakee and Peoria. The Freezer Bowl was played between the Cincinnati Bengals and the San Deigo Chargers in bitterly cold wind chills. The air temperature was −9 °F, but the wind chill, factoring in a sustained wind of 27 mph,  was −37 °F.

1987 - Bitter cold air invaded the Rocky Mountain Region, with subzero readings reported as far south as Gallop NM. Pocatello ID reported a record low reading of 14 degrees below zero. (National Weather Summary)

1988 - A storm in the northwestern U.S. produced wind gusts to 97 mph at Netarts OR, and up to two feet of snow in the mountains of Oregon. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - The first documented January tornado of record in Utah struck the south part of Sandy. Asphalt shingles were driven one half inch into a fence. (The Weather Channel) Clear skies, light winds, and up to 24 inches of snow cover, allowed the temperature to plunge to 45 degrees below zero at Roseau MN, and to -43 degrees at Warroad MN. The afternoon high at Grand Forks ND was 16 degrees below zero. (National Weather Summary)

1990 - Strong southerly winds ahead of a Pacific cold front helped temperatures in the central U.S. soar as much as 50 degrees during the day. A total of fifty cities in the central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, with afternoon highs in the 70s reported as far north as Nebraska and eastern Colorado. Highs of 53 at devils Lake ND, 76 at Grand Island NE, 73 at Lincoln NE, and 73 at North Platte NE, established records for the month of January. (National Weather Summary)

2001 - Storms dumped more than seven inches of rain on parts of southern California, including Los Angeles, where nearly four inches of rain fell. The heavy rains caused mudslides and road closures along much of California's central coast and up to three feet of snow was deposited in some coastal mountain areas. (NCDC)

so warm in 2016 and then an HECS in about 2 weeks!

[Stormlover74]

9 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Looks like permanent DST will become a reality.... this year?

Nah invade Greenland first...sorry I know no politics 

[MJO812]

[EastonSN+]

14 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Any official report from Atlanta?

[HeadInTheClouds]

My sister lives in northern Virginia and they had about 7 inches from the last storm and the schools were closed for 4 days. LOL. 

[anthonymm]

20 straight days of cold anomalies followed by a cutter. Only we could pull this off. Wonder when we’ll finally stop reverting to the mean so hard and get a winter with >20” of snow.  

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, anthonymm said:

20 straight days of cold anomalies followed by a cutter. Only we could pull this off. Wonder when we’ll finally stop reverting to the mean so hard and get a winter with >20” of snow.  

reverting to the mean would be getting 25-30 inches of snow.

[LibertyBell]

33 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

Any official report from Atlanta?

the snow is over there, it changed to freezing rain and sleet

 

14.5 inches in Arkansas

[Allsnow]

Congrats Atlanta and Dallas 

 

I guess no mjo p5 winters forever 

[anthonymm]

@LibertyBell Yup I guess "reversion to below the mean" would be more accurate. Anyway I think another solidly below average winter is all but certain as of now, unless we pull off the impossible and get a KU somehow. I'm thinking around 10" or maybe even less for central park this winter.

[Brian5671]

1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

 

The Sunshine Bill has been reintroduced.  This bill would allow states (like AZ) to decide to participate in DST and others to remain on DST.

 

https://www.rickscott.senate.gov/2025/1/sen-rick-scott-leads-bipartisan-bill-to-lock-the-clock

 

I had thought that there was movement to end DST but havet seen any counter bills only this D.ST permanent bill.  States like NY and NJ would likely follow the federal guidance and change clocks ahead and then stay on DS

Get ready for some dark mornings in the winter-sunrise would be 8:18am in NYC  even later for cites further west in the time zone

[Brian5671]

4 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Congrats Atlanta and Dallas 

 

I guess no mjo p5 winters forever 

Just bone dry overall here since August.   

[Allsnow]

 

[North and West]

Just bone dry overall here since August.   

Underreported fact… it’s not only not snowing because God hates us, it’s just been dry. First dry and warm, now dry and cold.


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[weathermedic]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

Looks like permanent DST will become a reality.... this year?

If that happen, it means 8am and later sunrises in winter

[forkyfork]

sunrise should be at noon

[psv88]

18 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

the snow is over there, it changed to freezing rain and sleet

 

14.5 inches in Arkansas

Looks like Atlanta got 2-3” of snow 

[SACRUS]

9 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Get ready for some dark mornings in the winter-sunrise would be 8:18am in NYC  even later for cites further west in the time zone

Id wager it doesnt't pass its been on and off again.  I believe DST was tried 1973 year round and quickly reverted back. Late morning or later sunsets - how much energy is truly saved.