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January: Medium/ Long Range: May the Force be with Us....


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7 minutes ago, Terpeast said:

Gfs op looks weird. Slow moving OH valley low… then it dies… and then not 24 hours later a coastal races by? 500mb looks more like one wave trying to phase with the PV than two separate storms. Either way, it won’t verify close to verbatim. 

GFS looks really wacked out . Looks like a trasher.

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I still like the Jan 6th storm. It has a ton of moisture in the Midwest, moving into a -NAO block and 50/50 low. Very unlikely it will split off in pieces like the GFS is showing, there will probably be at least a 1-2 day space between waves, or it may organize as the front end storm completely. In which case, it could be a decent thump of snow with the moisture Jan 5-6. Not really a strong -EPO pattern yet on Jan 5/6, which is usually associated with a lot of ice.  7-8 days to go. A lot will be worked out. 

I love snow that precedes colder periods. These have been more rare lately. 

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10 minutes ago, Ruin said:

i sweat to go if this thing falls apart or ends up being a cutter im done lol 

It's going to be hard for it to cut into a -NAO block. The Pacific isn't unfavorable.. I think the key is how cold it gets before hand. The pattern is still raging +NAO/+EPO right now so we'll have to see how this pattern change over the next few days goes. Worst case scenario, the -NAO is not as strong as currently projected.. 

Edit: We do already have -NAO today, I was a day or two ago. So the pattern change is already taking place.. gives more confidence to the solution. The H5 does let up a little during the storm, any trend towards a continuum is good, we have a good pattern on the front and back end. 

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4 minutes ago, midatlanticweather said:

Well, nothing is settled here.. But the trends of consolidation and a clear outcome are out. If today's dud is a harbinger for poor forecasting, I am going to be even more skeptical than ever. 

It’s all at least a week away. We’ve all been doing this for years, so why is anyone dissecting the surface?  

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1 minute ago, bncho said:

Slightly afraid we lose our Jan 8-10 storm via supression.

The Day 11-13 storm? Pacific is trending not as cold, a few days ago it was pretty different actually with strong -EPO/+PNA, now it's just a weak pattern on the models. A weaker pattern actually allows things to cut, but we could be looking at upper 20s snow vs 10s it was showing before.  I think it will be an interesting bit of time here tracking it all. 

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