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January: Medium/ Long Range: May the Force be with Us....


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1 minute ago, mitchnick said:

Gem at 156hrs looks much different thann0z. S/w is more amped put west. Shocked if it cuts, but shred and suppression still on the table.

Yeah, GEM def looks more interesting than the GFS for sure.  I'd be shocked as well if it cuts...but we've seen it all so far

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4 minutes ago, mattie g said:

Can you PLEASE stop with this?

The facts get to you don’t they 

There are a few other negative Nellie’s  considered charming .  Model fact addresses not charming it appears  

it’s part of a weather discussion to discuss recent and ongoing blown model samples. It’s not all hopes and wishes 

We get to 3 days remaining and a low  IS coming near Atlanta and heading northeast then we got something to latch onto. Models even blew it last year within 24 hours after we had the one good Jan event. I remember  this and thus don’t rely on a myriad of examples showing low out to sea, over Norfolk, over DC or cutting into the lakes. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, stormtracker said:

lol...it cuts

GEM and GFS honestly relatively similar looks at 500 mb while the vort is still out west - GFS just quicker by 6-12 hours and cuts hard due to the interaction with the TPV vorticity in Canada sooner. 

After hour 156 though... good lord GEM has a nightmare reputation with deciphering a progressive NS like we'd have here. 

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9 minutes ago, WVclimo said:

Sure would be nice to have some snow cover to see what kind of temps this could produce.

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I would think that would generate something that produces some instability snow squalls especially if  it was further south of us and maybe SW of us.  not sure I have ever seen that look so I am also curious what it can do...fun things maybe.

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  1st storm is 7-8 days out and second storm is 10-11 days out . I wouldn't even pay any attention to modeling for these storms  till about Thursday for storm 1 and  Monday for storm 2.    Wayy too early to get excited or discouraged by what the models say now lol we all know those models will look totally  different in A week

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5 hours ago, MillvilleWx said:

That storm would be the penultimate blizzard verbatim. That has shades of 1993 written on it. A sharp shortwave dig phases across the SE US and causes the whole 5H axis to go negative east of the Mississippi. I would do unspeakable things for that to occur. Interesting that's a potential evolution in the cards. I'm utilizing the deterministic as an ensemble at this point to gauge potential. There's multiple ways to score in this pattern, but failure is 100% on the table when looking at how the pattern will evolve. I hope we hit on at least one. 

This is what I mean when I say you all are way the hell overdue. If that evolution  stayed all snow in DC, the outcome would be unspeakably glorious for snow enthusiasts. 

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1 minute ago, BristowWx said:

I would think that would generate something that produces some instability snow squalls especially if  it was further south of us and maybe SW of us.  not sure I have ever seen that look so I am also curious what it can do...fun things maybe.

That would produce some insane snow squall activity that would impact our area. Idk if I've ever seen the 5H evolve like that before. Kind of wild to see. 

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2 minutes ago, winter_warlock said:

  1st storm is 7-8 days out and second storm is 10-11 days out . I wouldn't even pay any attention to modeling for these storms  till about Thursday for storm 1 and  Monday for storm 2.    Wayy too early to get excited or discouraged by what the models say now lol we all know those models will look totally  different in A week

Speaking of not giving up until the shorter-range, I'll keep beating the Jan. 4 drum. ICON ens (as I understand it, a fork of the EPS) took about a ~200m jump to the NE. Still got 5 days. 

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9 minutes ago, MillvilleWx said:

That would produce some insane snow squall activity that would impact our area. Idk if I've ever seen the 5H evolve like that before. Kind of wild to see. 

Seen it modeled plenty of times like that at range, just never usually ever actually occurs. 

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