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EPS is still fairly amplified for 1/6…and while there’s timing differences that overlap somewhat, there’s still two distinct event signals on the ensembles. 1/6-7 and 1/10-11…fairly similar to what we’ve been seeing on both Euro and GFS OP runs with two storms. 

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  On 12/30/2024 at 12:55 PM, ORH_wxman said:

EPS is still fairly amplified for 1/6…and while there’s timing differences that overlap somewhat, there’s still two distinct event signals on the ensembles. 1/6-7 and 1/10-11…fairly similar to what we’ve been seeing on both Euro and GFS OP runs with two storms. 

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It matches the Euro op for Sunday night/ Monday. Getting close to having high confidence in that first one . Another day or two 

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  On 12/30/2024 at 12:57 PM, Damage In Tolland said:

It matches the Euro op for Sunday night/ Monday. Getting close to having high confidence in that first one . Another day or two 

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OP Euro was a near-miss next Monday. But yeah, they are close....EPS is more amplified and gets precip into most of the region.

My biggest concern is still suppression on these....the block in the NAO region is really strong and it's the type of setup where we've seen suppression in the past.

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  On 12/30/2024 at 1:09 PM, ORH_wxman said:

OP Euro was a near-miss next Monday. But yeah, they are close....EPS is more amplified and gets precip into most of the region.

My biggest concern is still suppression on these....the block in the NAO region is really strong and it's the type of setup where we've seen suppression in the past.

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Let's suppress and lock in the cold for pond skating.

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  On 12/30/2024 at 1:12 PM, CoastalWx said:

There’s definitely chances, but I agree with Will that the block is the bigger problem right now. If it doesn’t suppress it, it could shear it to flurries. This is for the 6-7. Too far away to comment on anything beyond that. 

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Lets go with the ICON solution of the block pinning part of the PV and then doing a partial PV phase with the main shortwave

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  On 12/30/2024 at 1:11 PM, weatherwiz said:

I seriously hope the 10th-12th period works out. Not optimistic about the period several days prior but please let this period work out. Feels like that period will never get here and its even crazier thinking that will be closing in on mid-January 

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  On 12/30/2024 at 1:12 PM, CoastalWx said:

There’s definitely chances, but I agree with Will that the block is the bigger problem right now. If it doesn’t suppress it, it could shear it to flurries. This is for the 6-7. Too far away to comment on anything beyond that. 

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This period will define the winter. If this fails to produce bigtime, its going to be another shitty season.

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  On 12/30/2024 at 1:21 PM, Kitz Craver said:

Triple phase?

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Not on that depiction but it would probably be a monster storm if we had another few panels. 
 

There’s a lot of ways for that storm to work but there’s definitely a meat-grinder/suppression risk too. That’s my biggest concern looking at overnight guidance. That block is a pig. On one level, that block is very likely preventing 1/6 from being a big cutter…the 1/6 shortwave is amplifying quickly out in the plains which wound surely send the system into Ontario without any Atlantic confluence or blocking. But too much of a good thing is a possibility. 

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  On 12/30/2024 at 1:25 PM, ORH_wxman said:

Not on that depiction but it would probably be a monster storm if we had another few panels. 
 

There’s a lot of ways for that storm to work but there’s definitely a meat-grinder/suppression risk too. That’s my biggest concern looking at overnight guidance. That block is a pig. On one level, that block is very likely preventing 1/6 from being a big cutter…the 1/6 shortwave is amplifying quickly out in the plains which wound surely send the system into Ontario without any Atlantic confluence or blocking. But too much of a good thing is a possibility. 

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I would rather risk the cuttter...I hate the shredder scenarios. Even in the former, its probably a great front-ender.

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